Ron Paul’s debate moments and Bachmann lies

December 16th, 2011 3:16 am  |  by  |  Published in Big Government, Blowback, Constitution, Debate, Election, Foreign Policy, History, Maven Commentary, Ron Paul  |  4 Responses

In one of the more interesting exchanges in last night’s GOP Debate on FOX News, Ron Paul and Michelle Bachmann found some time to disagree with each other. Without checking on the facts of what each said, one could walk away believing something that was just not true. Which candidate lied? Here is your answer from “FACT CHECK” via the AP:

MICHELE BACHMANN: “We have an IAEA report that just recently came out that said literally Iran is within just months of being able to obtain that (a nuclear) weapon.”
RON PAUL: “There is no U.N. report that said that. It’s totally wrong, what you just said.”
Bachmann: “It’s the IAEA report.”
THE FACTS: As Paul said, the report of the International Atomic Energy Agency does not state that Iran is within months of having nuclear arms. The U.N. agency report does suggest that Iran conducted secret experiments whose sole purpose is the development of nuclear weapons but did not put a time frame on when Iran might succeed in building a bomb, and it made no final conclusion on Tehran’s intent.
Bachmann also erred by arguing that Iran has “stated they will use it (a nuclear weapon) against the United States.”
Iran vehemently rejects that it is developing a nuclear bomb, let alone that it plans to drop one on the U.S.

Yes, unsurprisingly it was Michelle Bachmann who lied or I guess if you are a supporter of hers, “stretched the truth”. Bachmann also appears to have lied about what is in the Iranian Constitution, claiming it “states unequivocally” to stretch “jihad across the world”. Well, unless the Wikipedia interpretation of the Iranian Constitution is wrong I see no mention of “jihad” or “caliphate”. In fact, it directly mentions foreign policy in section X, saying in part:

Article 152 The foreign policy of the Islamic Republic of Iran is based upon the rejection of all forms of domination, both the exertion of it and submission to it, the preservation of the independence of the country in all respects and its territorial integrity, the defence of the rights of all Muslims, non-alignment with respect to the hegemonic superpowers, and the maintenance of mutually peaceful relations with all non-belligerent States.

There is certainly no “unequivocal” mention of jihad against the world. Hopefully voters will see through Bachmann’s and Santorum’s melodramatic horse-hockey.

Here are all of Ron Paul’s moments in the debate, totaling over 18 minutes:

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  1. John says:

    December 16th, 2011 at 4:09 am (#)

    Why didn't some see how Ron Paul was careful to not include Iran's friends in the equation. Where do you think they acquired the tech to land the Drown as it was changing computer signals? If we really were interested in stopping Iran, it would have already happened. This is the Industrial Military Complex's control over everyone but Paul. America better wake up, Ron Paul is the last chance for Freedom, Justice, Peace, and Liberty in our sick land.

  2. Guest says:

    December 16th, 2011 at 5:39 am (#)

    Ron Paul won yet again, the neocons demonstrated there inability to see reality as is YET AGAIN, Ron Paul won, yet again :) as expected , Ron Paul 2012

  3. Canuteson says:

    December 20th, 2011 at 2:51 am (#)

    It really pisses me off that they are still asking Ron Paul this same old question, "Electability, do you have any sir?"

  4. rightclue says:

    December 25th, 2011 at 10:34 am (#)

    unfortunately, most brain dead voters in this country buy into the fear and warmongering and do not bother to check the REALITY and the FACTS.

    while in America there are a lot of educated, well rounded, and well to do people..

    there are even more brain dead, fat, jingoistic, fearful morons… and most of them can vote!