Ron Paul influence in 2012 worries John McCain

June 19th, 2011 4:10 pm  |  by  |  Published in Big Government, Blowback, Constitution, Election, Foreign Policy, Maven Commentary, Ron Paul  |  59 Responses

As if we needed further proof that it didn’t really matter if you voted for McCain or Obama in 2008. McCain appeared this morningĀ  on “This Week” and vocalized his displeasure at the growing “isolationism” (his word, not mine) being expressed by the 2012 GOP candidates. Of course it was McCain, who during a debate in 2007, accused Ron Paul’s “isolotianism” of being the kind of policy that brought about WWII and the rise of Hitler. Here’s a video of that exchange:

This morning McCain sounded a similar tune when talking about Obama’s recent support of actions in Libya.

“There’s always been an isolation strain in the Republican party, that Pat Buchanan (a former Republican presidential contender) wing of our party. But now it seems to have moved more center stage, so to speak,” he said.

There is no question that President Barack Obama, a Democrat, made the right choice in lending US military support to the NATO mission in Libya, McCain told ABC television’s “This Week” program.

“If we had not intervened, Kadhafi was at the gates of Benghazi. He said he was going to go house to house to kill everybody. That’s a city of 700,000 people. What would be saying now if we had allowed for that to happen?

“That’s not the Republican party of the 20th century and now the 21st century,” McCain said.

McCain is a neo-con Republican dinosaur with a jingoist broken record roar of, “America F&%K YEAH!” It is as tired as it is desperate. He also, along with much of the media, needs to learn the proper definition of isolationism. For more see this excellent video on isolationism from Jack Hunter.

It is a testament to Ron Paul that his message of non-interventionism is now being echoed, in various forms, by his 2012 GOP opponents. However, let’s not kid ourselves, not a single candidate in the field other than Ron Paul can be trusted to put action behind the words.

In 2008 I wrote that I didn’t think America was ready for Ron Paul. Here in 2011-2012, America just might be ready. Even if Dino-McCain isn’t.


Responses

  1. NadePaulKuciGravMcKi says:

    June 19th, 2011 at 4:23 pm (#)

    … NEOCONS ON THE RUN …

    7 Nation Army couldn't hold Ron Paul back

  2. bobby kelley says:

    June 19th, 2011 at 4:35 pm (#)

    I LOVE RON PAUL !!!

  3. cody says:

    June 19th, 2011 at 4:36 pm (#)

    RP ftw!

  4. john l says:

    June 19th, 2011 at 4:38 pm (#)

    Ron Paul is the only true presidential candidate who does not lie. He is the only candidate I would vote for. I do like Herman Cain for vice president to Ron Paul for 2012. YESSSSS

  5. lnardozi says:

    June 19th, 2011 at 4:53 pm (#)

    Yes, I think I'd like to try a President that doesn't lie for a change. We haven't had one of those since… I can't even remember when! Just to be able to listen to the President speak and not think 'what a liar', that would be priceless.

  6. DaVe says:

    June 19th, 2011 at 5:40 pm (#)

    I hope we all are doing everything we can to push the primaries! We need to get registered voters to the polls! This is our best chance, realistically our only chance to get Dr.Paul to the Whitehouse! While our vote is important, more important is the vote of others, especially the ones from the folks that havn't heard Ron Paul's true message before. The corporate media is treating Dr. Paul and his supporters like they have no chance. Any reasonably intelligent person cpuld see that. The question is why? Some of us know there are several, and that they all undermine , in the very least, the wishes of the American People. This is, our second chance we must not waste it! Dr. Paul 2012

  7. Bill Goode says:

    June 19th, 2011 at 5:48 pm (#)

    Campaign for Liberty posted a poll on the sidebar of this page suggesting Ron Paul as a Vice Presidential candidate with Jim DeMint as the Presidential candidate. I would hope that Ron Paul would not accept the VP spot. It would void his voice and lower his position. The VP has no say in anything. I voted "Other" as I would have Ron Paul remain in Congress than accept the VP slot.

  8. Alyosha says:

    June 19th, 2011 at 5:53 pm (#)

    A question for McCain regarding this statement of his, "If we had not intervened, Kadhafi was at the gates of Benghazi. He said he was going to go house to house to kill everybody. That's a city of 700,000 people. What would we be saying now if we had allowed for that to happen?" Why would it have been the fault of Americans if Kadhafi had massacred 700,000 in Libya? There are over 300 million people just across the Mediterranean from Libya, and plenty more directly south, west and east, and yet by some bizarre logic it is Americans that would have had the blood of 700,000 on our hands had we not intervened. There's plenty of death and misery in Mexico as we speak. Let's help them first.

  9. liberty1st says:

    June 19th, 2011 at 6:47 pm (#)

    Liberty and freedom over a political party…Ron Paul, Ron Paul, Ron Paul…Sorry that just feels good!

  10. Rich Turner says:

    June 19th, 2011 at 6:53 pm (#)

    That sounds just like McCain. I voted for him in 2008. He failed us then by losing in '08 like he is failing us now with his irrational statements. Goofy people like him are the reason why I will be supporting Representative Ron Paul in 2012.

  11. Jilly4Liberty says:

    June 19th, 2011 at 6:57 pm (#)

    GOD BLESS RON PAUL

  12. Kaphen DePriest says:

    June 19th, 2011 at 7:20 pm (#)

    Ron Paul will stop the wars, bring our troops home safely and save a trillion dollars in the process. Maybe we could use that money to balance the budget.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvlxVMnHvvQ

  13. Kaphen DePriest says:

    June 19th, 2011 at 7:20 pm (#)

    Ron Paul will stop the wars, bring our troops home safely and save a trillion dollars in the process. Maybe we could use that money to balance the budget.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvlxVMnHvvQ

  14. Kaphen DePriest says:

    June 19th, 2011 at 7:20 pm (#)

    Ron Paul will stop the wars, bring our troops home safely and save a trillion dollars in the process. Maybe we could use that money to balance the budget.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvlxVMnHvvQ

  15. Kaphen DePriest says:

    June 19th, 2011 at 7:20 pm (#)

    Ron Paul will stop the wars, bring our troops home safely and save a trillion dollars in the process. Maybe we could use that money to balance the budget.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvlxVMnHvvQ

  16. Kaphen DePriest says:

    June 19th, 2011 at 7:20 pm (#)

    Ron Paul will stop the wars, bring our troops home safely and save a trillion dollars in the process. Maybe we could use that money to balance the budget.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvlxVMnHvvQ

  17. Kaphen DePriest says:

    June 19th, 2011 at 7:20 pm (#)

    Ron Paul will stop the wars, bring our troops home safely and save a trillion dollars in the process. Maybe we could use that money to balance the budget.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvlxVMnHvvQ

  18. Eric says:

    June 19th, 2011 at 8:07 pm (#)

    God bless Front Runner Ron Paul

  19. George Washington says:

    June 19th, 2011 at 8:31 pm (#)

    Ron Paul 2012 Please!

    Thank You

  20. D3C0D3 says:

    June 19th, 2011 at 9:17 pm (#)

    Just goes to show that the war dogs could not loose in 2008. The biggest joke is they used the race card to put Cheney's relative in office and call it change. Notice the Dems and minorities thought they had won and a lot still do. The Rep are not hardly trying to win now. Why? They have their NeoCon in place.Ron Paul 2012! We need to win BIG so there is no questions.

  21. Jim says:

    June 19th, 2011 at 9:40 pm (#)

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  22. Jim says:

    June 19th, 2011 at 9:40 pm (#)

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  23. Jim says:

    June 19th, 2011 at 9:40 pm (#)

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  24. Jim says:

    June 19th, 2011 at 9:40 pm (#)

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  25. Jim says:

    June 19th, 2011 at 9:40 pm (#)

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  26. Jim says:

    June 19th, 2011 at 9:40 pm (#)

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  27. Jefferson says:

    June 20th, 2011 at 12:11 am (#)

    John McCain needs to go away.

  28. NeoConWorld says:

    June 20th, 2011 at 12:40 am (#)

    Ron Paul should have responded, "Senator McCain, perhaps instead of looking at the response of the world to Hitler, we could instead ask ourselves, How different the world would have been had the German people stood up and NO to their German army marching through Europe… Because while we may not have committed the atrosities of Hitler, we have expanded our own military empire to nearly every corner of this world and it's bringing new enemies to our doorstep from countries you couldn't even show us on a map… Perhaps if we could stop shooting at everyone we can start to trade with them again – You know Senator, the way it was before people like you started pushing your finger into everyone's chest…"

  29. NeoConWorld says:

    June 20th, 2011 at 12:40 am (#)

    Ron Paul should have responded, "Senator McCain, perhaps instead of looking at the response of the world to Hitler, we could instead ask ourselves, How different the world would have been had the German people stood up and said, "NO!" to their German army marching through Europe… Because while we may not have committed the atrosities of Hitler, we have expanded our own military empire to nearly every corner of this world and it's bringing new enemies to our doorstep from countries you couldn't even show us on a map… Perhaps if we could stop shooting at everyone we can start to trade with them again – You know Senator, the way it was before people like you started pushing your finger into everyone's chest…"

  30. larry says:

    June 20th, 2011 at 1:11 am (#)

    Not only that but how about we let the Libyans defend themselves. If they allow something like that to take place then it's their own fault.

  31. Travis says:

    June 20th, 2011 at 1:14 am (#)

    The Neocons like McCain need to be run out of office….

    Ron Paul is the only choice for true freedom….

    I do not want false freedom that the Patriot Act brings…

    I do not want a Police State….

    Give me liberty or give me death !

    I will vote for Ron Paul…and my voice will be one of many that WILL be heard !

    Ron Paul 2012

  32. fartmccormick says:

    June 20th, 2011 at 2:16 am (#)

    "He also, along with much of the media, needs to learn the proper definition of isolationism."

    Do you actually think they really care? It's much easier to demonize the two and feign ignorance than it is to be objective. Don't be so naive.

  33. Francisco Guerreiro says:

    June 20th, 2011 at 4:05 am (#)

    Just gotta love Ron Paul….McCain is just a war propagandist. Portugal is with Ron Paul for 2012..All the best…

  34. FirstTimeVoter says:

    June 20th, 2011 at 5:39 am (#)

    I still haven't decided who I'm voting for, but this Ron Paul guy seems to make the most sense. He also seems to be the most honest and sincere.

  35. RonPauldotse says:

    June 20th, 2011 at 6:05 am (#)

    Yes! Yes! Yes!

    Ron Paul 2012!

    McCain should retire and start learning about the proper meaning of words.

  36. Clark Kent says:

    June 20th, 2011 at 6:28 am (#)

    John McCain is one stupid son of a bich. He should stfu and sit down. It is aggressive pre-emptive interventionist war mongers who want to expand war in Yemen,Pakistan,Afghanistan,Iraq, Libya…..Syria,and Iran ….who will start ww3. John Mccain is a freakin nutjob!

  37. Peter says:

    June 20th, 2011 at 9:52 am (#)

    As far as I know, Gaddafi did not say that he was going to kill the people of Benghazi. It is the rebels who sought the help of other nations that said that they were afraid that he might kill people there. I doubt that Gaddafi would have gone from house to house to kill non-threatening people. When the Gaddafi forces took parts of Misrata they did not slaughter civilians house to house. Anyway, should we sentence people for what they might do, rather than what they have done?

    Further, how is Gaddafi anything like Hitler? Did Gaddafi annex or conquer the surrounding countries? Did Gaddafi build death camps for people with a different religion? How could ANY modern dictator even BE like Hitler? Many countries now have nuclear bombs so it would be impossible for a dictatorship to indulge in Hitler-like conquests.

  38. slpknt24 says:

    June 20th, 2011 at 10:01 am (#)

    My question for Mccain is. When did telling the truth ever start a war?

  39. GEC says:

    June 20th, 2011 at 11:23 am (#)

    we dont want to help Mexico because we did kinda sorta cause the drug war that has killed millions there

  40. roy says:

    June 20th, 2011 at 11:30 am (#)

    ron paul- the only RIGHT choice in my opinion!

  41. MEMEME says:

    June 20th, 2011 at 11:32 am (#)

    SO many pro Ron Paul comments on an anti ron paul article.

    GOOD.

    The Paul train is coming. I'm doing everything in my power to bring awareness. We don't have 5 years to wait for another chot at this. Our empire is about to dissolve.
    http://eatingpropaganda.blogspot.com/

  42. MEMEME says:

    June 20th, 2011 at 11:32 am (#)

    SO many pro Ron Paul comments on an anti ron paul article.

    GOOD.

    The Paul train is coming. I'm doing everything in my power to bring awareness. We don't have 5 years to wait for another chot at this. Our empire is about to dissolve.
    http://eatingpropaganda.blogspot.com/

  43. MEMEME says:

    June 20th, 2011 at 11:32 am (#)

    SO many pro Ron Paul comments on an anti ron paul article.

    GOOD.

    The Paul train is coming. I'm doing everything in my power to bring awareness. We don't have 5 years to wait for another chot at this. Our empire is about to dissolve.
    http://eatingpropaganda.blogspot.com/

  44. MEMEME says:

    June 20th, 2011 at 11:32 am (#)

    SO many pro Ron Paul comments on an anti ron paul article.

    GOOD.

    The Paul train is coming. I'm doing everything in my power to bring awareness. We don't have 5 years to wait for another chot at this. Our empire is about to dissolve.
    http://eatingpropaganda.blogspot.com/

  45. MEMEME says:

    June 20th, 2011 at 11:32 am (#)

    SO many pro Ron Paul comments on an anti ron paul article.

    GOOD.

    The Paul train is coming. I'm doing everything in my power to bring awareness. We don't have 5 years to wait for another chot at this. Our empire is about to dissolve.
    http://eatingpropaganda.blogspot.com/

  46. MEMEME says:

    June 20th, 2011 at 11:32 am (#)

    SO many pro Ron Paul comments on an anti ron paul article.

    GOOD.

    The Paul train is coming. I'm doing everything in my power to bring awareness. We don't have 5 years to wait for another chot at this. Our empire is about to dissolve.
    http://eatingpropaganda.blogspot.com/

  47. srm says:

    June 20th, 2011 at 12:29 pm (#)

    What we need to do is urge all our democrat friends who have lost faith in Obama to register as republicans so they can vote for Ron Paul in the Primaries. Then if they feel Obama is a better candidate than Ron Paul they can always vote for Obama in the General Election. The fact is that the GOP is probably going to throw up some neocon like Romney , Paulinty or Perry and it will be another 4 years of the same old shit.

  48. Tony Caso says:

    June 20th, 2011 at 1:59 pm (#)

    If we don't get Ron Paul as president there will be a World War 3 especially if people like Mcain are president or even Romney just 2 more puppets the media is trying so hard to promote because the media are nothing but government liberal suck asses. Oh ya I forgot to mention they also pull the wool over citizen's eyes to what's really going on around the world too. Like how all the Mexican's in Mexico want's America to stop arming their police and military with weapon's that are killing ten's of thousand's of their people a year over this bullshit drug war!!!!

  49. Ron Emrick says:

    June 20th, 2011 at 5:43 pm (#)

    I was a dummy and voted for McCain in last election. Never again will I vote for a mainstream Neo-Con Republican. Things would have been no better if McCain had won, in fact in some ways it might be even worse. This time its Ron Paul all the way.

  50. GadsdenGurl says:

    June 20th, 2011 at 7:53 pm (#)

    McCain what a loser.

  51. Guest says:

    June 21st, 2011 at 2:34 am (#)

    Kucinich

  52. Man says:

    June 22nd, 2011 at 9:16 pm (#)

    Ron Paul talks ten times faster than any other candidate.

  53. Kevin says:

    June 28th, 2011 at 12:26 am (#)

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  54. Kevin says:

    June 28th, 2011 at 12:26 am (#)

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  55. Kevin says:

    June 28th, 2011 at 12:26 am (#)

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  56. Kevin says:

    June 28th, 2011 at 12:26 am (#)

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  57. Kevin says:

    June 28th, 2011 at 12:26 am (#)

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  58. Kevin says:

    June 28th, 2011 at 12:26 am (#)

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  59. yodani says:

    April 19th, 2012 at 2:36 pm (#)

    saying ron paul is an isolationist is like calling your neighbor is a hermit for not coming into your house and breaking your windows!