Liberty MavenRon Paul showcases his foreign policy philosophy during Armenian Genocide markup
March 5th, 2010 11:52 am | by Marc Gallagher | Published in Blowback, Foreign Policy, History, Ron Paul, congress | 49 Responses
Ron Paul used his five minutes during yesterday’s markup of a bill to recognize the Armenian Genocide of 1915 to showcase his foreign policy philosophy of neutrality and non-intervention.
Paul shines when he has more than a couple minutes to represent his position, especially on foreign policy. He makes a point to emphasize his philosophy is not one of isolation from the world, but one where we don’t stick our nose where it doesn’t belong.
March 5th, 2010 at 5:40 pm (#)
Why don't you just deny the Jewish Holocaust, since that may make someone angry. At some point you need to acknowledge history and not cower in Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt.
March 5th, 2010 at 7:32 pm (#)
Following your stream of logic, the US should repeal or ignore ALL of its one sided ethnic/national resolutions… The Holocaust, Rwanda, Darfur, Cambodia, Bosnia, the Assyrians, the Greeks, the Kurds, Sudan, Burundi, Burma, Uganda, Indonesia and many others… What Paul is saying is logical, however it is too idealistic… According to him this debate should not enter the political arena of the US. Agreed. However it already did with the acceptance of the Holocaust as genocide. This doesn't have a gray area… Either we accept all or ignore all.
If we ignore all, there wont be a fear of "the watchdog" and genocides will continue to occur. However, if we stand resolutely against ALL genocides (regardless of its political underpinnings) then those who would be willing to commit genocide will be more hesitant. Marc, this is about MURDERING innocent people. Let's put a little fear into the murderers.
March 5th, 2010 at 5:38 pm (#)
Sorry Ron, the Armenian Genocide resolution isn't about "taking sides" but about speaking the truth. And it is in our best interest in the long run to get involved, speak the truth and condemn past and present genocides as they are crimes against all humanity, precisely so we can avoid them in the future. Not getting involved is cowardly and just asking history to repeat itself.
March 5th, 2010 at 5:38 pm (#)
Sorry Ron, the Armenian Genocide resolution isn't about "taking sides" but about speaking the truth. And it is in our best interest in the long run to get involved, speak the truth and condemn past and present genocides as they are crimes against all humanity, precisely so we can avoid them in the future. Not getting involved is cowardly and just asking history to repeat itself.
March 5th, 2010 at 5:40 pm (#)
Why don't you just deny the Jewish Holocaust, since that may make someone angry. At some point you need to acknowledge history and not cower in Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt.
March 5th, 2010 at 5:40 pm (#)
Why don't you just deny the Jewish Holocaust, since that may make someone angry. At some point you need to acknowledge history and not cower in Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt.
March 5th, 2010 at 5:55 pm (#)
Are you kidding me? Have you even investigated the Holocaust? Have you ever investigated who invested and funded the positioning of the SS armies?! It was Jewish banking families, i.e. the Rothschilds, Warburgs that directly funded the German armies all in the name of a 'sacrifice' towards a Jewish state. Google "who funded Hitler" and you'll discover for yourself, some of the truths that have been lost.
March 5th, 2010 at 5:55 pm (#)
Are you kidding me? Have you even investigated the Holocaust? Have you ever investigated who invested and funded the positioning of the SS armies?! It was Jewish banking families, i.e. the Rothschilds, Warburgs that directly funded the German armies all in the name of a 'sacrifice' towards a Jewish state. Google "who funded Hitler" and you'll discover for yourself, some of the truths that have been lost.
March 5th, 2010 at 6:06 pm (#)
It's far from cowardly to take the position Paul has taken. The cowardly position is to go along with the crowd. If you actually pay attention to what he says, he personally condemns it and considers it a tragedy, but when governments get involved in passing legislation it's not only the wrong way to go about it, but it wastes the taxpayer's money too. Nothing new there though.
Incidentally, history is going to repeat itself whether or not the U.S. Congress recognizes Armenian Genocide or not.
March 5th, 2010 at 6:06 pm (#)
It's far from cowardly to take the position Paul has taken. The cowardly position is to go along with the crowd. If you actually pay attention to what he says, he personally condemns it and considers it a tragedy, but when governments get involved in passing legislation it's not only the wrong way to go about it, but it wastes the taxpayer's money too. Nothing new there though.
Incidentally, history is going to repeat itself whether or not the U.S. Congress recognizes Armenian Genocide or not.
March 5th, 2010 at 6:14 pm (#)
once an idiot always an idiot
March 5th, 2010 at 6:15 pm (#)
He's not denying anything. Some of his first words were that voting either 'no' or 'yes' doesn't represent his position. He doesn't deny anything. Taking a "stay out of their business" position does not equate to denial.
If you think he's worried about making "someone angry" then you don't know Ron Paul very well. A case in point is that your comment implies that you ARE angry because of his position. So much for him worrying about that.
March 5th, 2010 at 6:15 pm (#)
He's not denying anything. Some of his first words were that voting either 'no' or 'yes' doesn't represent his position. He doesn't deny anything. Taking a "stay out of their business" position does not equate to denial.
If you think he's worried about making "someone angry" then you don't know Ron Paul very well. A case in point is that your comment implies that you ARE angry because of his position. So much for him worrying about that.
March 5th, 2010 at 6:32 pm (#)
Look I'm Armenian but born and raised in the US. I will state that. I agree what he is saying about stirring the pot and governments sticking their noses in other peoples business, which the US has a long history of doing, but what bothers me are double standards. When say Iran denies the Holocaust leaders all over the world rise up and condemn them and hold walkouts during UN speeches, but when it comes to the Armenians we are forgotten and people feel the need to take a "fair" approach and entertain the Turkish side that this did not happen when pretty much all historians outside of Turkey say this happened and is already recognized in some 20 countries around the world. It happened it was a genocide, don't call it something its not. I could care less who recognizes it for we will forever know the truth.
March 5th, 2010 at 6:32 pm (#)
Look I'm Armenian but born and raised in the US. I will state that. I agree what he is saying about stirring the pot and governments sticking their noses in other peoples business, which the US has a long history of doing, but what bothers me are double standards. When say Iran denies the Holocaust leaders all over the world rise up and condemn them and hold walkouts during UN speeches, but when it comes to the Armenians we are forgotten and people feel the need to take a "fair" approach and entertain the Turkish side that this did not happen when pretty much all historians outside of Turkey say this happened and is already recognized in some 20 countries around the world. It happened it was a genocide, don't call it something its not. I could care less who recognizes it for we will forever know the truth.
March 5th, 2010 at 6:46 pm (#)
O Ron Paul – He is critical of acknowledging the horrors of history when it'll mean sacrificing a yearly $7 billion in yearly weapon sales profits from Turkey. The man is usually spot on when it comes to foreign policy, but in this case his profit-lust has led him him to neglect justice. O well…
March 5th, 2010 at 6:46 pm (#)
O Ron Paul – He is critical of acknowledging the horrors of history when it'll mean sacrificing a yearly $7 billion in yearly weapon sales profits from Turkey. The man is usually spot on when it comes to foreign policy, but in this case his profit-lust has led him him to neglect justice. O well…
March 5th, 2010 at 7:24 pm (#)
Well, at least Ron Paul is consistent, unlike the rest of the clowns who opposed it for purely unethical reasons.
March 5th, 2010 at 7:24 pm (#)
What does the funding of the Holocaust have anything to do with denying it?????????
March 5th, 2010 at 7:32 pm (#)
Following your stream of logic, the US should repeal or ignore ALL of its one sided ethnic/national resolutions… The Holocaust, Rwanda, Darfur, Cambodia, Bosnia, the Assyrians, the Greeks, the Kurds, Sudan, Burundi, Burma, Uganda, Indonesia and many others… What Paul is saying is logical, however it is too idealistic… According to him this debate should not enter the political arena of the US. Agreed. However it already did with the acceptance of the Holocaust as genocide. This doesn't have a gray area… Either we accept all or ignore all.
If we ignore all, there wont be a fear of "the watchdog" and genocides will continue to occur. However, if we stand resolutely against ALL genocides (regardless of its political underpinnings) then those who would be willing to commit genocide will be more hesitant. Marc, this is about MURDERING innocent people. Let's put a little fear into the murderers.
March 5th, 2010 at 7:32 pm (#)
Following your stream of logic, the US should repeal or ignore ALL of its one sided ethnic/national resolutions… The Holocaust, Rwanda, Darfur, Cambodia, Bosnia, the Assyrians, the Greeks, the Kurds, Sudan, Burundi, Burma, Uganda, Indonesia and many others… What Paul is saying is logical, however it is too idealistic… According to him this debate should not enter the political arena of the US. Agreed. However it already did with the acceptance of the Holocaust as genocide. This doesn't have a gray area… Either we accept all or ignore all.
If we ignore all, there wont be a fear of "the watchdog" and genocides will continue to occur. However, if we stand resolutely against ALL genocides (regardless of its political underpinnings) then those who would be willing to commit genocide will be more hesitant. Marc, this is about MURDERING innocent people. Let's put a little fear into the murderers.
March 5th, 2010 at 7:49 pm (#)
I was merely pointing out the fact that nick's post made no sense.
And it is a touchy subject, my grandparents and parents told me stories of how they mercilessly burned people in churches and broke into peoples homes killing them on the spot. So yes this subject would upset some people when it is brushed off to the side and political games are played by not acknowledging it and basically calling a whole ethnic group liars by some, not saying this is what Ron is doing. I get Ron's position but try and understand what some of these people go through and their position. I will refer you back to my original post about my feelings on the matter.
March 5th, 2010 at 7:49 pm (#)
I was merely pointing out the fact that nick's post made no sense.
And it is a touchy subject, my grandparents and parents told me stories of how they mercilessly burned people in churches and broke into peoples homes killing them on the spot. So yes this subject would upset some people when it is brushed off to the side and political games are played by not acknowledging it and basically calling a whole ethnic group liars by some, not saying this is what Ron is doing. I get Ron's position but try and understand what some of these people go through and their position. I will refer you back to my original post about my feelings on the matter.
March 5th, 2010 at 9:55 pm (#)
Why must government condem an act for it to be "official?" Individuals in the country can condem Turkey all they want. What about the Americans that did not want to condem Turkey? The government just forced them to take a position that they do not hold. Its like welfare forcing people to be charitable because government thinks its ethical.
We should be more concerned with getting our own house in order before passing judgment on poor government performance 100 years ago in a country on the other side of the planet. Way to go, congress.
March 5th, 2010 at 10:04 pm (#)
Wow, "poor government peformance?"
The Armenian Genocide was the deliberate mass murder of 1.5 million people essentially because they are Christian. At the same time in the same place, the minority Christian populations of Greeks and Assyrians were also targeted with killngs in the tens of thousands. Eventually, all Christians from this region were "cleansed" from the population. It was the blue print for Hitler. It inspired him. Is that not our concern? Do you not remember that we fought two world wars? this was World War I — and Turkey was in the Axis powers allied against us. German military officers reports also give us a horrific picture of scenes that sickened even them in WWI watching their allies' action against the Armenian population.
The American Red Cross went on its very FIRST international mission to help the Armenians who were being slaughtered and deliberately starved to death on marches to their deaths in the Syrian desert. President Woodrow Wilson was one of the champions who spoke out on this issue as we were about to enter WWI. And the Armenians — who welcomed American institutions in their midst including schools and other institutions — were greatly helped by orphanages established by American missionaries; those children who survived often did so because of American involvement.
If you think whole populations being slaughtered for their Christian religion is not our business — then I invite you to think about the war on terror. How does covering up a jihad that amounts to genocide help us? How is it not our business? Ron Paul wishes to stick his head in the sand, in a world that is increasingly and without any doubt — whether we like it or not — global in its effects and dimensions. We couldn't hide then, we can't hide now. It's more important than ever.
March 5th, 2010 at 10:04 pm (#)
Wow, "poor government peformance?"
The Armenian Genocide was the deliberate mass murder of 1.5 million people essentially because they are Christian. At the same time in the same place, the minority Christian populations of Greeks and Assyrians were also targeted with killngs in the tens of thousands. Eventually, all Christians from this region were "cleansed" from the population. It was the blue print for Hitler. It inspired him. Is that not our concern? Do you not remember that we fought two world wars? this was World War I — and Turkey was in the Axis powers allied against us. German military officers reports also give us a horrific picture of scenes that sickened even them in WWI watching their allies' action against the Armenian population.
The American Red Cross went on its very FIRST international mission to help the Armenians who were being slaughtered and deliberately starved to death on marches to their deaths in the Syrian desert. President Woodrow Wilson was one of the champions who spoke out on this issue as we were about to enter WWI. And the Armenians — who welcomed American institutions in their midst including schools and other institutions — were greatly helped by orphanages established by American missionaries; those children who survived often did so because of American involvement.
If you think whole populations being slaughtered for their Christian religion is not our business — then I invite you to think about the war on terror. How does covering up a jihad that amounts to genocide help us? How is it not our business? Ron Paul wishes to stick his head in the sand, in a world that is increasingly and without any doubt — whether we like it or not — global in its effects and dimensions. We couldn't hide then, we can't hide now. It's more important than ever.
March 6th, 2010 at 3:36 am (#)
Ron Paul,
I contributed some $600 to your presidential campaign, and now I hear you want to accept Turkey's gag order on the U.S. when it comes to speaking the word Armenian genocide. As a strict constitutionalist, I expect that you would believe that America, and its government are free to refer to historical fact as needed, and not be hamstrung by a foreign government's will to gag the U.S. Imagine if Iran tried to bargain military and trade relations with the U.S. in exchange for never uttering the word 'Holocaust'. Would that be acceptable to you Dr. Paul? The genocide resolution bill is non-binding, and all it basically says is that our policy should include the words Armenian Genocide. What's wrong with that?
March 6th, 2010 at 3:36 am (#)
Ron Paul,
I contributed some $600 to your presidential campaign, and now I hear you want to accept Turkey's gag order on the U.S. when it comes to speaking the word Armenian genocide. As a strict constitutionalist, I expect that you would believe that America, and its government are free to refer to historical fact as needed, and not be hamstrung by a foreign government's will to gag the U.S. Imagine if Iran tried to bargain military and trade relations with the U.S. in exchange for never uttering the word 'Holocaust'. Would that be acceptable to you Dr. Paul? The genocide resolution bill is non-binding, and all it basically says is that our policy should include the words Armenian Genocide. What's wrong with that?
March 6th, 2010 at 3:58 am (#)
Poor government performance on Turkey's side. When government decides to murder millions of innocent civilians, wouldn't you consider that poor government? Did the Turkish people murder all of those "minority Christians" or did their foolish government?
As for sticking their heads in the sand, Janine, I suggest you read up on your WW1 history, specifically Wilson's Fourteen Points, the Treaty of Versailles, and the horrendous treatment of Germany after that war that allowed Hitler to assume control and lead the the 2nd.
Its time to realize that history really is only an example of bad government, ours being no exception.
March 6th, 2010 at 3:58 am (#)
Poor government performance on Turkey's side. When government decides to murder millions of innocent civilians, wouldn't you consider that poor government? Did the Turkish people murder all of those "minority Christians" or did their foolish government?
As for sticking their heads in the sand, Janine, I suggest you read up on your WW1 history, specifically Wilson's Fourteen Points, the Treaty of Versailles, and the horrendous treatment of Germany after that war that allowed Hitler to assume control and lead the the 2nd.
Its time to realize that history really is only an example of bad government, ours being no exception.
March 6th, 2010 at 8:12 am (#)
Passing bills that condemn genocide does nothing to stop it from happening. You think those that have convinced themselves to commit genocide would consider the opinion of the U.S. Congress when they weigh the pros and cons of committing it?
Murdering innocent people is obviously wrong. I don't need Congress to tell me it is wrong. And those that commit murders certainly won't stop and think, "Oh I better not do this because the U.S Congress says they don't like it."
And again, the position is not one of "ignoring" it like it doesn't exist. I have nothing against anyone speaking out against such atrocities. I have a problem with my elected officials spending time and tax payer money to collectively condemn acts that are obviously abhorrent to any sane individual. It's all such a waste of time.
Thank you for commenting,
Marc
March 6th, 2010 at 8:12 am (#)
Passing bills that condemn genocide does nothing to stop it from happening. You think those that have convinced themselves to commit genocide would consider the opinion of the U.S. Congress when they weigh the pros and cons of committing it?
Murdering innocent people is obviously wrong. I don't need Congress to tell me it is wrong. And those that commit murders certainly won't stop and think, "Oh I better not do this because the U.S Congress says they don't like it."
And again, the position is not one of "ignoring" it like it doesn't exist. I have nothing against anyone speaking out against such atrocities. I have a problem with my elected officials spending time and tax payer money to collectively condemn acts that are obviously abhorrent to any sane individual. It's all such a waste of time.
Thank you for commenting,
Marc
March 6th, 2010 at 8:12 am (#)
Passing bills that condemn genocide does nothing to stop it from happening. You think those that have convinced themselves to commit genocide would consider the opinion of the U.S. Congress when they weigh the pros and cons of committing it?
Murdering innocent people is obviously wrong. I don't need Congress to tell me it is wrong. And those that commit murders certainly won't stop and think, "Oh I better not do this because the U.S Congress says they don't like it."
And again, the position is not one of "ignoring" it like it doesn't exist. I have nothing against anyone speaking out against such atrocities. I have a problem with my elected officials spending time and tax payer money to collectively condemn acts that are obviously abhorrent to any sane individual. It's all such a waste of time.
Thank you for commenting,
Marc
March 6th, 2010 at 7:00 pm (#)
Actually if you followed Dr. Paul at all, you'd find that he's being absolutely consistent. And I'd be very surprised if his vote had anything to do with weapon sales, given his absolutely consistent voting record and speeches over the last 30 odd years.
March 6th, 2010 at 5:44 pm (#)
After listening to Ron Paul's address on Armenian Genocide, I came to the conclusion that
Paul is an absolute hyprocrit. When he mentioned about his position as being neutral why
did not he abstain from voting? To me Paul's argument is a psycho talk.
March 6th, 2010 at 5:44 pm (#)
After listening to Ron Paul's address on Armenian Genocide, I came to the conclusion that
Paul is an absolute hyprocrit. When he mentioned about his position as being neutral why
did not he abstain from voting? To me Paul's argument is a psycho talk.
March 6th, 2010 at 6:04 pm (#)
Yes Dr Pail , like allways u are right
March 6th, 2010 at 6:57 pm (#)
Amazing how you want Dr. Paul to be a strict constitutionalist except when it is counter to something you feel strongly about. Exactly what part of Jeffersonian diplomacy is Dr Paul violating?
March 6th, 2010 at 7:00 pm (#)
Actually if you followed Dr. Paul at all, you'd find that he's being absolutely consistent. And I'd be very surprised if his vote had anything to do with weapon sales, given his absolutely consistent voting record and speeches over the last 30 odd years.
March 6th, 2010 at 7:00 pm (#)
Actually if you followed Dr. Paul at all, you'd find that he's being absolutely consistent. And I'd be very surprised if his vote had anything to do with weapon sales, given his absolutely consistent voting record and speeches over the last 30 odd years.
March 6th, 2010 at 7:00 pm (#)
If we understood the Armenian genocide as an event whose perpetrators were rooted in the same ideology as Al-Qaeda, then the philosophy of burying our head in the ground about what is happening internationally is fundamentally wrong.
Furthermore, our very constitution owes its existence to opposition from old world persecution from which we collectively as Americans suffered. Therefore, it is not only an appropriate place to enshrine our values in opposition to the persecutions we faced in the old world, it is in fact the best place for us and it is part of the heritage of the United States to enshrine our opposition to old world persecution in our constitution and the legal system from which it derives. We should as a nation be fundamentally against genocide given that so many americans found their way to this country as a result of these horrific historical events. Therefore, as the legitimate representatives of our people, our government should voice our opposition to old world persecution and enshrine it in our laws as we did with the our constitution. With this approach, we will raise human dignity to a higher standard and educate and guide ourselves where we have been deficient as a society much like human rights and civil rights legislation continues to do today. Then perhaps our standards of human dignity will become a global standard and we will not be drawn into world wars or regional conflicts over it.
March 6th, 2010 at 8:41 pm (#)
Ron Paul has been a great congressmen but his statement on this issue did not condemn the United States for specific actions in the Middle East and the hundreds of millions of dollars of public money for a museum condemning a particular genocide, therefore, his statement seemed very weak and not convincing. If he had vigorously used his five minutes to specifically enumerate what the United States has done by intervening in the Middle East he would begin to start being convincing, instead he used sweeping generalizations which undercut his argument.
March 7th, 2010 at 4:31 pm (#)
Has it ever occurred to those ethnic-pandering buffoons in Congress to ask this question to the deep-pocketed, hate-mongering Armenian slicks : How many Turkish, Kurdish, Muslim, Jewish citizens of the Ottoman Empire were slaughtered by the rampaging, murderous Armenian goon squads?
A bit of research will show that the Armenian terror gangs of that era would make Osama bin Ladin and his hoodlums look like Mickey-Mouse operators.
March 7th, 2010 at 4:49 pm (#)
Jake Threefeathers
.
to what "research" do you refer- Marvel comics.
you should change your name to One Featherbrain.
March 7th, 2010 at 5:44 pm (#)
Are you retarded?
March 8th, 2010 at 3:03 am (#)
Ah but Marc, when a US resolution is passed into an official federal bill it represents the opinion of this country (its government and its people). Therefore by association we are implying that "we condemn genocides, however we will close a blind eye if one of the countries we associate with commits it."
Marc, I COMPLETELY agree with your last paragraph. However, as I mentioned before the US must take an official stance just as it has in the past. Its like the game of convenience. Oh well it was convenient to condemn the Holocaust since we just fought the Germans (people tend to forget the little book Ford used to put in the glovebox of every ford automobile, "The International Jew" written by Ford himself… a VERY antisemetic book) but now since Turkey is our ally, we now find it convenient to not condemn such an act. If it isn't such a big deal, then why aren't our elected officials just passing this condemnation as fast as possible to NOT waste time and tax payer money? Ahhhhhh the fresh smell of politics and deep pockets.
As a student of the political sciences, it is obvious that our government will eventually acknowledge the Armenian Genocide as a Genocide. However, it is with the fight of such human rights groups that we bring it closer and closer. Look, the whole reason Armenians even want an acceptance of these events as Genocide is because with the US on board, pressure for an official Turkish apology becomes more viable.
As an Armenian, all I really care about is an apology from the Turkish Government. I don't want money, I don't want land, I don't want reparations. ONLY recognition. Please just say sorry for murdering 55 members of my grandfather's family and I will be completely content (without a shadow of a doubt).
thanks for responding!
-greg
March 8th, 2010 at 3:03 am (#)
Ah but Marc, when a US resolution is passed into an official federal bill it represents the opinion of this country (its government and its people). Therefore by association we are implying that "we condemn genocides, however we will close a blind eye if one of the countries we associate with commits it."
Marc, I COMPLETELY agree with your last paragraph. However, as I mentioned before the US must take an official stance just as it has in the past. Its like the game of convenience. Oh well it was convenient to condemn the Holocaust since we just fought the Germans (people tend to forget the little book Ford used to put in the glovebox of every ford automobile, "The International Jew" written by Ford himself… a VERY antisemetic book) but now since Turkey is our ally, we now find it convenient to not condemn such an act. If it isn't such a big deal, then why aren't our elected officials just passing this condemnation as fast as possible to NOT waste time and tax payer money? Ahhhhhh the fresh smell of politics and deep pockets.
As a student of the political sciences, it is obvious that our government will eventually acknowledge the Armenian Genocide as a Genocide. However, it is with the fight of such human rights groups that we bring it closer and closer. Look, the whole reason Armenians even want an acceptance of these events as Genocide is because with the US on board, pressure for an official Turkish apology becomes more viable.
As an Armenian, all I really care about is an apology from the Turkish Government. I don't want money, I don't want land, I don't want reparations. ONLY recognition. Please just say sorry for murdering 55 members of my grandfather's family and I will be completely content (without a shadow of a doubt).
thanks for responding!
-greg
March 8th, 2010 at 3:03 am (#)
Ah but Marc, when a US resolution is passed into an official federal bill it represents the opinion of this country (its government and its people). Therefore by association we are implying that "we condemn genocides, however we will close a blind eye if one of the countries we associate with commits it."
Marc, I COMPLETELY agree with your last paragraph. However, as I mentioned before the US must take an official stance just as it has in the past. Its like the game of convenience. Oh well it was convenient to condemn the Holocaust since we just fought the Germans (people tend to forget the little book Ford used to put in the glovebox of every ford automobile, "The International Jew" written by Ford himself… a VERY antisemetic book) but now since Turkey is our ally, we now find it convenient to not condemn such an act. If it isn't such a big deal, then why aren't our elected officials just passing this condemnation as fast as possible to NOT waste time and tax payer money? Ahhhhhh the fresh smell of politics and deep pockets.
As a student of the political sciences, it is obvious that our government will eventually acknowledge the Armenian Genocide as a Genocide. However, it is with the fight of such human rights groups that we bring it closer and closer. Look, the whole reason Armenians even want an acceptance of these events as Genocide is because with the US on board, pressure for an official Turkish apology becomes more viable.
As an Armenian, all I really care about is an apology from the Turkish Government. I don't want money, I don't want land, I don't want reparations. ONLY recognition. Please just say sorry for murdering 55 members of my grandfather's family and I will be completely content (without a shadow of a doubt).
thanks for responding!
-greg
March 8th, 2010 at 3:57 am (#)
it is the libtards trying to appease the Christians in that region, since they just gave kosovo to the muslims in armenia. 30 years ago kosovo had less than 10% muslim, now it is over 90%