Liberty MavenBoss Hogg
February 23rd, 2010 10:32 pm | by Clyde James Aragon | Published in Big Government, Health Care, Investing, Market Regulation, nationalization, Obama, Politics, price control, price controls, Socialism | 13 Responses
In Barack Obama’s latest health care plan is a proposal to give the Health and Human Services secretary the power to block price increases in premiums by health insurers. That power, on its face, would be subjective and political. However, it would complete the take-over of American companies by this increasingly relentless socialist administration.
Look at the facts, these days government dictates how to make a product, the government dictates what to put in a product, the government dictates shipping methodology if the U.S. Postal Service is used, the government dictates working conditions with OSHA, the government dictates minimum pay for employees and who to hire with EEOC laws, the government dictates salaries and bonuses for management in some industries, and, at the end of the day, for its efforts, the government will be on hand to collect its fair share of the company’s profit through taxation if a company is fortunate enough to make a profit on its transactions.
Now the government wants to dictate to companies what they will charge for their products.
What decision making is left for a company under this administration? Helping pick the color of tablecloths in the company mess hall?
This proposal will be the final nail in the de facto take-over of American business. And it neatly avoids the messiness and expense of actually having to buy or run companies ala General Motors or AIG. Free companies! What socialist politician wouldn’t be giddy with excitement over the prospect?
You just gotta admire that crazy Capitalist Socialism.
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February 24th, 2010 at 4:33 am (#)
It's not Socialism; it's Fascism.
Sociaism means the government outright owns the means of production.
Fascism means the government indirectly controls the means of productions through coersion and mandates on private owners.
Although it appears we may be moving toward the idea of socialism, we're very far from it. I think Obama and the others are happy to leave things the hands of private industry, but control every detail like a backseat driver.
That being said, you seem to have so much hatred for Obama and the Democrats that you are blind to the fact that the Republicans aren't really much better.
February 24th, 2010 at 4:33 am (#)
It's not Socialism; it's Fascism.
Sociaism means the government outright owns the means of production.
Fascism means the government indirectly controls the means of productions through coersion and mandates on private owners.
Although it appears we may be moving toward the idea of socialism, we're very far from it. I think Obama and the others are happy to leave things the hands of private industry, but control every detail like a backseat driver.
That being said, you seem to have so much hatred for Obama and the Democrats that you are blind to the fact that the Republicans aren't really much better.
February 24th, 2010 at 2:35 pm (#)
Is hugo chavez considered socialist or facist?
Was benito mussolini considered socialist or fascist?
The labels placed on followers of the marxist path are truly meaningless. The end results are the same. Left of center is loss of freedoms and liberty, right of center is choices and responsibility.
Mr. Aragon wrote a great piece, and I will say we are already way past simply heading toward socialism, we are 100% socialist, and we have been for over 100 years. Read up on the "progressive era", also you might want to understand the history of benito mussolini, and how he was considered the socialist leader for years, it was accepted fact he was socialist. All in all the labels matter little, all of it is marxism and it has one end in mind.
February 24th, 2010 at 9:55 am (#)
[...] governement Leave a Comment Healthcare is just one more power grab by the government as Liberty Mavin points out so clearly. No one in the government is fighting against taking on more power over this [...]
February 24th, 2010 at 3:14 pm (#)
Considering the way stupid amuricun's react to the very word "socialism" they'd never get to the meat of topic if the word was mentioned. Everything goes blank from the neck up, you know, meatheads. There is one simple axiom that explains ALL of this. Simply, if this country were blessed with an intelligent, sophisticated population, no cabal such as we have presently, and have always had, could possibly exist. Listening to the squids expound ad nauseum on blogs such as this, gives anyone with a mind a bowel gripe. Most don't know what the terms; "socialism, fascism, or communism" even mean. There minds were built by the Flush Dumbaws in the world. The world would be much better off if the US were hit by a comet.
February 24th, 2010 at 3:21 pm (#)
Now here is a good example of an "amuricun." Libertarian Mike!! Socialism means the government owns the means of production? This is a typical lie from the mouth of an uninformed amuricunt. A pathetic ideologue who doesn't know that socialism has a government completely subservient to the people. Just because Mikee hasn't ever seen one, and is certainly not educated in politics, doesn't mean that the construct doesn't. Sorta like calling the US a democracy when the US doesn't, even in the loosest of terms resemble a democracy. Gotcher gun mikeee? remember the the business end with the little hole in it points DOWNRANGE!!
February 24th, 2010 at 3:37 pm (#)
OH!, by the by, mikee, remember the cops, fire, some ems, military, and other items are all paid for by TAX DOLLARS!! That's how a socialist nation pays for such things, including medicine. Hard pill to swallow ole bean, but true non the less. You watch to much TV or listen to too much Glen Beck, another sorry loser.
February 24th, 2010 at 3:23 pm (#)
let's see if Liberty Haven has any guts to publish two line drives in a row, or, god forbid!!, we don't want to hurt pubertymike's feelings!!!!! AW, FUCK THE MEATHEAD!!
February 24th, 2010 at 3:23 pm (#)
let's see if Liberty Haven has any guts to publish two line drives in a row, or, god forbid!!, we don't want to hurt pubertymike's feelings!!!!! AW, FUCK THE MEATHEAD!!
February 24th, 2010 at 3:32 pm (#)
Weeeeelllll, Mike, I don't give a good goddamn WHO you write for if what you write is bilge. You're clearly unaware of what's going on, that is amuricuh is ruled by Corporate Elites. You know, a plutocratic oligarchy. Damn, you wouldn't have a clue what that is. In simple terms, the corporations own the government. All you do is blow hard and give THEM your money! I can't say i disagree with the nefarious need for a possible armed uprising by the electorate. But what do you want? twenty thirty thousand people of every different point of view mankind has ever heard of, (and some NOBODY's ever heard of, walking up your ass armed? Given the heterogeneous nature of this country's electorate, you couldn't get a consensus of this population for love or money. So what DO you get? A fuking mub!!!! Shot to shit in the first twenty four hours. Go back to school, mike. The world doesn't need even one more idiotic amuricun!
February 24th, 2010 at 3:32 pm (#)
Weeeeelllll, Mike, I don't give a good goddamn WHO you write for if what you write is bilge. You're clearly unaware of what's going on, that is amuricuh is ruled by Corporate Elites. You know, a plutocratic oligarchy. Damn, you wouldn't have a clue what that is. In simple terms, the corporations own the government. All you do is blow hard and give THEM your money! I can't say i disagree with the nefarious need for a possible armed uprising by the electorate. But what do you want? twenty thirty thousand people of every different point of view mankind has ever heard of, (and some NOBODY's ever heard of, walking up your ass armed? Given the heterogeneous nature of this country's electorate, you couldn't get a consensus of this population for love or money. So what DO you get? A fuking mub!!!! Shot to shit in the first twenty four hours. Go back to school, mike. The world doesn't need even one more idiotic amuricun!
February 24th, 2010 at 3:34 pm (#)
that's MOB, mike, MOB!! OK, DON'T GET FRUSTRATED NOW
February 24th, 2010 at 3:34 pm (#)
that's MOB, mike, MOB!! OK, DON'T GET FRUSTRATED NOW