Liberty MavenRon Paul challenges Ben Stein to a foreign policy debate, officially
January 1st, 2010 10:10 pm | by Marc Gallagher | Published in Blowback, Commentary, Foreign Policy, Liberty, Neo-con, Ron Paul, War, campaign for liberty, foreign aid, terrorism | 20 Responses
Ron Paul is coming out swinging again following his “dust up” on Larry King last week when he was accused of making anti-semitic remarks by Ben Stein. In a newly released video from the Campaign For Liberty Paul speaks a bit about the altercation and ends by officially challenging Ben Stein to a debate on foreign policy.
It’s obvious Paul is trying to get his foreign policy argument back in the public eye after Obama seems to be following the Bush doctrine in Afghanistan. The question now becomes: Will Ben Stein agree to a moderated debate on foreign policy with Ron Paul? I’d love to see it. If you’d like to see it too then feel free to use the contact information for his agent on his site to make a request.
Incidentally, I do wish Paul would pronounce Yemen correctly. He says YAY-men. It should be YEH-men. Then again I don’t support him for his speaking ability, I support him because he fights for liberty.
January 2nd, 2010 at 4:18 am (#)
Ron Paul already beat Ben Stein.
I'm looking for Ron Paul to debate Rush Limbaugh or Paul Krugman.
January 2nd, 2010 at 4:18 am (#)
Ron Paul already beat Ben Stein.
I'm looking for Ron Paul to debate Rush Limbaugh or Paul Krugman.
January 2nd, 2010 at 5:12 am (#)
Ha! Ben Stein should stick to Comcast commercials! I remember Ben Stein arguing with Peter Schiff before the collapse and Ben was in full agreement with all the other "economists" and said Peter was wrong and there would be no housing or economic collapse. youtube watch?v=CZyvnWFbR84
January 2nd, 2010 at 5:56 am (#)
yay-man, shmay-man…is it Usama or Osama, muhammad or mohammad?
Why would something as trivial as that even elicit comment?
Ben Stein is a Globalist Zionist interventionist, he is not a conservative.
Foreign interventionists like Stein call patriotic TRADITIONAL Americanism and constitutionalism-ANTI-SEMITISM, I don't know about the rest of you, but, I'll take old-timey REAL Americanism if you don't mind, and even if you do mind….
January 2nd, 2010 at 5:56 am (#)
yay-man, shmay-man…is it Usama or Osama, muhammad or mohammad?
Why would something as trivial as that even elicit comment?
Ben Stein is a Globalist Zionist interventionist, he is not a conservative.
Foreign interventionists like Stein call patriotic TRADITIONAL Americanism and constitutionalism-ANTI-SEMITISM, I don't know about the rest of you, but, I'll take old-timey REAL Americanism if you don't mind, and even if you do mind….
January 2nd, 2010 at 6:11 pm (#)
Ben Stein figured out he had put his foot in his mouth and spent the rest of the time trying to talk over Ron Paul so it wouldn't be as apparent to everyone else.
How do you debate someone like that?
However, I'd certainly watch. But listening might be difficult.
January 2nd, 2010 at 2:25 pm (#)
Ben Stein isn’t stupid, just wrong. There is no reasonable way advocacy of a foreign policy of non-intervention can be construed as being anti-Semitic. Ben Stein’s argument is actually a line of supposition and conjecture that collapses upon scrutiny. Therefore, I doubt Mr. Stein will be willing to participate in an open and fair debate. However, he may be willing to continue to pontificate and obfuscate the issues.
Put simply, Mr. Stein believes any foreign policy pursued by the US that reduces our military presence around the world, and in the Middle East in particular, is essentially damaging to the security of Israel, and therefore must be the result of an anti-Semitic philosophy. He makes such a claim in an effort to poison the well, so to speak. The last refuge of any good propagandist is name-calling, and usually signals a lack of substantive argument and evidence. If you are unable to debate through reason and logic, then you can always attempt to gain the upper hand by causing an emotional reaction against your opponent. I hope most people can see through any such trickery and propagandistic devices.
January 2nd, 2010 at 5:20 pm (#)
Being a Jew myself I found Stein's attack on Paul appalling, not to mention ignorant and childish. Stein is just always chomping at the bit, ready for any excuse to cry "racism". He comes off as an intellect, but when you really take note and listen carefully he doesn't have the tools to compete with the big boys. Stein would do well to not accept Paul's invitation to a debate on foreign policy,. You need a little more ammunition than "because they are psychos" to debate someone whose an expert on the subject. Even if you don't agree with Paul, this debate would be like taking candy from a baby for the congressman.
January 2nd, 2010 at 5:20 pm (#)
Being a Jew myself I found Stein's attack on Paul appalling, not to mention ignorant and childish. Stein is just always chomping at the bit, ready for any excuse to cry "racism". He comes off as an intellect, but when you really take note and listen carefully he doesn't have the tools to compete with the big boys. Stein would do well to not accept Paul's invitation to a debate on foreign policy,. You need a little more ammunition than "because they are psychos" to debate someone whose an expert on the subject. Even if you don't agree with Paul, this debate would be like taking candy from a baby for the congressman.
January 2nd, 2010 at 6:11 pm (#)
Ben Stein figured out he had put his foot in his mouth and spent the rest of the time trying to talk over Ron Paul so it wouldn't be as apparent to everyone else.
How do you debate someone like that?
However, I'd certainly watch. But listening might be difficult.
January 2nd, 2010 at 6:11 pm (#)
Ben Stein figured out he had put his foot in his mouth and spent the rest of the time trying to talk over Ron Paul so it wouldn't be as apparent to everyone else.
How do you debate someone like that?
However, I'd certainly watch. But listening might be difficult.
January 2nd, 2010 at 10:48 pm (#)
"Incidentally, I do wish Paul would pronounce Yemen correctly. He says YAY-men. It should be YEH-men."
Dictionary.com lists yey-muhn as a secondary pronunciation. That was the second result on Google after the one you found.
January 4th, 2010 at 12:38 am (#)
I seriously doubt Ben Stein knows that the Federal Reserve is a private central bank and hasn't a clue that they are the ones who manipulate and control the monetary system, the Federal Government, the IRS, the oil industry, the military, industrial, congressional complex, the pharmaceutical industry, the educational system and the media to name a few. Ben has been steeped in the quagmire of misinformation spewed forth by an educational system and news media that has been tightly controlled since the turn of the 19th Century. It's no wonder his ideals are skewed. http://edwardmovius.name
January 4th, 2010 at 12:38 am (#)
I seriously doubt Ben Stein knows that the Federal Reserve is a private central bank and hasn't a clue that they are the ones who manipulate and control the monetary system, the Federal Government, the IRS, the oil industry, the military, industrial, congressional complex, the pharmaceutical industry, the educational system and the media to name a few. Ben has been steeped in the quagmire of misinformation spewed forth by an educational system and news media that has been tightly controlled since the turn of the 19th Century. It's no wonder his ideals are skewed. http://edwardmovius.name
January 4th, 2010 at 12:38 am (#)
I seriously doubt Ben Stein knows that the Federal Reserve is a private central bank and hasn't a clue that they are the ones who manipulate and control the monetary system, the Federal Government, the IRS, the oil industry, the military, industrial, congressional complex, the pharmaceutical industry, the educational system and the media to name a few. Ben has been steeped in the quagmire of misinformation spewed forth by an educational system and news media that has been tightly controlled since the turn of the 19th Century. It's no wonder his ideals are skewed. http://edwardmovius.name
January 4th, 2010 at 12:38 am (#)
I seriously doubt Ben Stein knows that the Federal Reserve is a private central bank and hasn't a clue that they are the ones who manipulate and control the monetary system, the Federal Government, the IRS, the oil industry, the military, industrial, congressional complex, the pharmaceutical industry, the educational system and the media to name a few. Ben has been steeped in the quagmire of misinformation spewed forth by an educational system and news media that has been tightly controlled since the turn of the 19th Century. It's no wonder his ideals are skewed. http://edwardmovius.name
January 4th, 2010 at 2:57 pm (#)
For Libertarians who believe the Tea Parties / Sarah Palin represent them, think again. CaseInPoint: Sean Casey and Frank Luber Show:
On January 4, 2010, at approximately 8:50am the disc jockey stated on the air: Because Ron Paul says 'they' (ie. the muslims) hate us because of what we do to them and because we are occupiers, that this shows Ron Paul has anti-semitic beliefs. So now we have the am-talk radio hosts attacking Ron Paul.
It's clear that the orthodoxy is not to be questioned. And, anyone who does so is personally attacked… calling someone an anti-Semite is a personal attack meant to undermine the person in our age of political correctness. Of course things should be questioned. It's cliché that we're to "think outside the box". Yet, when someone does, they're attacked. To not examine the enemies motives but just make them one-dimensional is very unsophisticated and is to one's own disadvantage.
January 4th, 2010 at 2:57 pm (#)
For Libertarians who believe the Tea Parties / Sarah Palin represent them, think again. CaseInPoint: Sean Casey and Frank Luber Show:
On January 4, 2010, at approximately 8:50am the disc jockey stated on the air: Because Ron Paul says 'they' (ie. the muslims) hate us because of what we do to them and because we are occupiers, that this shows Ron Paul has anti-semitic beliefs. So now we have the am-talk radio hosts attacking Ron Paul.
It's clear that the orthodoxy is not to be questioned. And, anyone who does so is personally attacked… calling someone an anti-Semite is a personal attack meant to undermine the person in our age of political correctness. Of course things should be questioned. It's cliché that we're to "think outside the box". Yet, when someone does, they're attacked. To not examine the enemies motives but just make them one-dimensional is very unsophisticated and is to one's own disadvantage.
January 4th, 2010 at 2:57 pm (#)
For Libertarians who believe the Tea Parties / Sarah Palin represent them, think again. CaseInPoint: Sean Casey and Frank Luber Show:
On January 4, 2010, at approximately 8:50am the disc jockey stated on the air: Because Ron Paul says 'they' (ie. the muslims) hate us because of what we do to them and because we are occupiers, that this shows Ron Paul has anti-semitic beliefs. So now we have the am-talk radio hosts attacking Ron Paul.
It's clear that the orthodoxy is not to be questioned. And, anyone who does so is personally attacked… calling someone an anti-Semite is a personal attack meant to undermine the person in our age of political correctness. Of course things should be questioned. It's cliché that we're to "think outside the box". Yet, when someone does, they're attacked. To not examine the enemies motives but just make them one-dimensional is very unsophisticated and is to one's own disadvantage.
January 4th, 2010 at 3:07 pm (#)
-forgot to mention: this was am-680 WCBM in Baltimore (talk radio).