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		<title>By: ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 02:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>let&#039;s just have the audit and see what&#039;s really going on??? I for one want to see what&#039;s behind the veil........... </description>
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		<title>By: ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>ron</dc:creator>
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		<description>let&#039;s just have the audit and see what&#039;s really going on??? I for one want to see what&#039;s behind the veil........... </description>
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		<title>By: Mikefive</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mikefive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 02:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found the exchange with Senator Gregg very interesting as he controlled much of the discussion, made a lot of valid points and put Ron Paul on the defensive.  He contends that auditing the Fed would politicize monetary policy and he is right in a sense.  Sure, it&#039;s already politicized to an extent as the Prez appoints the Chairman.  But even with the 180-day delay, Gregg is right that an ambitious Congressman like Grayson will shine a critical light on the newly revealed Fed actions.  This will politically influence the Fed&#039;s actions for better or worse.  Gregg made other valid points that Paul disputed, such as his original bill didn&#039;t have the 180-day waiting period and that Audit the Fed is a legitimate step toward ending the fed. 
 
It was interesting to see Paul thrown onto the defensive and get steered into making statements that were not quite true.  He was clearly flustered in the Gregg debate.  But he still made many valid points of his own and I still believe his ideology is correct.  He could do better in those situations though. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found the exchange with Senator Gregg very interesting as he controlled much of the discussion, made a lot of valid points and put Ron Paul on the defensive.  He contends that auditing the Fed would politicize monetary policy and he is right in a sense.  Sure, it&#39;s already politicized to an extent as the Prez appoints the Chairman.  But even with the 180-day delay, Gregg is right that an ambitious Congressman like Grayson will shine a critical light on the newly revealed Fed actions.  This will politically influence the Fed&#39;s actions for better or worse.  Gregg made other valid points that Paul disputed, such as his original bill didn&#39;t have the 180-day waiting period and that Audit the Fed is a legitimate step toward ending the fed. </p>
<p>It was interesting to see Paul thrown onto the defensive and get steered into making statements that were not quite true.  He was clearly flustered in the Gregg debate.  But he still made many valid points of his own and I still believe his ideology is correct.  He could do better in those situations though.</p>
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		<title>By: Mikefive</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mikefive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 02:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found the exchange with Senator Gregg very interesting as he controlled much of the discussion, made a lot of valid points and put Ron Paul on the defensive.  He contends that auditing the Fed would politicize monetary policy and he is right in a sense.  Sure, it&#039;s already politicized to an extent as the Prez appoints the Chairman.  But even with the 180-day delay, Gregg is right that an ambitious Congressman like Grayson will shine a critical light on the newly revealed Fed actions.  This will politically influence the Fed&#039;s actions for better or worse.  Gregg made other valid points that Paul disputed, such as his original bill didn&#039;t have the 180-day waiting period and that Audit the Fed is a legitimate step toward ending the fed. 
 
It was interesting to see Paul thrown onto the defensive and get steered into making statements that were not quite true.  He was clearly flustered in the Gregg debate.  But he still made many valid points of his own and I still believe his ideology is correct.  He could do better in those situations though. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found the exchange with Senator Gregg very interesting as he controlled much of the discussion, made a lot of valid points and put Ron Paul on the defensive.  He contends that auditing the Fed would politicize monetary policy and he is right in a sense.  Sure, it&#39;s already politicized to an extent as the Prez appoints the Chairman.  But even with the 180-day delay, Gregg is right that an ambitious Congressman like Grayson will shine a critical light on the newly revealed Fed actions.  This will politically influence the Fed&#39;s actions for better or worse.  Gregg made other valid points that Paul disputed, such as his original bill didn&#39;t have the 180-day waiting period and that Audit the Fed is a legitimate step toward ending the fed. </p>
<p>It was interesting to see Paul thrown onto the defensive and get steered into making statements that were not quite true.  He was clearly flustered in the Gregg debate.  But he still made many valid points of his own and I still believe his ideology is correct.  He could do better in those situations though.</p>
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		<title>By: colihondro</title>
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		<dc:creator>colihondro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 02:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: colihondro</title>
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		<title>By: Luke Buhrman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luke Buhrman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 01:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mishkin has some very valid points within his argument, and he is quite an interesting character.  His discussion is quite pointedly insightful for the subject at hand which really is the bill not the existence of the Federal Reserve.  Although I must say that I personally agree that the Fed needs to see it&#039;s end,  I think Mishkin agrees as well.  I would like to find out more about his background this says he was a &quot;governor&quot; probably of one of the branches other than new york, he probably knows first hand how corrupt the Fed actually is.  Because of course we all know how much professors make. 
 
This man appears to me to dislike the Fed and their practices but ultimately sees them as a beast that needs collared and not simply put down, why?  As he states, &quot;no one wants the kind of old inflation like we had in the 1970&#039;s&quot; he assumes that we believe that &quot;some&quot; kind of inflation is acceptable and necessary and that the Fed is the one worthy to inflict this on the american people.   
 
I would much rather have no inflation.  It is only a backward tax on our lives and livelihoods when we have to get a raise of so much percent each year just to keep up. 
 
But I do have to say that Mishkin is on point and quite harsh on Ron Paul&#039;s bill as reckless and &quot;being&quot; ad hoc.  I would have to say that congressman Paul sees this and takes the information seriously.  I think as much as Ron Paul truly wants to see the end of the Fed, he wants it done with the least harm to the american people.   
 
As citizens we need to understand that this bill will be a very important piece of legislation, and we cannot allow big business and the fed itself to spend money to buy this situation.  They can do this  by purchasing time with media to further their image of keepers of the peoples interest when their hands are all over the economy and it&#039;s present issues which they are already doing.  Another route they may take is to alter the bill by watering it down or twist it to actually give them much more power, you have to be careful when they are the ones usually running the shell game.   
 
When Mishkin says &quot;but to audit the federal reserve at this particular time, that could be disastrous&quot;  This is where he doesn&#039;t understand who we think caused this tremendously costly financial disaster. 
 
I want to send him a T-shirt. 
 
I don&#039;t think Mishkin was bought off, but the next guy?  You tell me. 
 
His best point is when he talks about how if we get rid of the federal reserve note, we may have a bit of a calamity.  This is true.  Which is why Congressman Paul&#039;s reply was important about taking away the legal tender from the dollar and allowing other currencies to flourish.    Unless of course we want to base it on a commodity as Paul explains with his &quot;basket&quot; idea. 
 
/Coolhand </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mishkin has some very valid points within his argument, and he is quite an interesting character.  His discussion is quite pointedly insightful for the subject at hand which really is the bill not the existence of the Federal Reserve.  Although I must say that I personally agree that the Fed needs to see it&#39;s end,  I think Mishkin agrees as well.  I would like to find out more about his background this says he was a &quot;governor&quot; probably of one of the branches other than new york, he probably knows first hand how corrupt the Fed actually is.  Because of course we all know how much professors make. </p>
<p>This man appears to me to dislike the Fed and their practices but ultimately sees them as a beast that needs collared and not simply put down, why?  As he states, &quot;no one wants the kind of old inflation like we had in the 1970&#39;s&quot; he assumes that we believe that &quot;some&quot; kind of inflation is acceptable and necessary and that the Fed is the one worthy to inflict this on the american people.   </p>
<p>I would much rather have no inflation.  It is only a backward tax on our lives and livelihoods when we have to get a raise of so much percent each year just to keep up. </p>
<p>But I do have to say that Mishkin is on point and quite harsh on Ron Paul&#39;s bill as reckless and &quot;being&quot; ad hoc.  I would have to say that congressman Paul sees this and takes the information seriously.  I think as much as Ron Paul truly wants to see the end of the Fed, he wants it done with the least harm to the american people.   </p>
<p>As citizens we need to understand that this bill will be a very important piece of legislation, and we cannot allow big business and the fed itself to spend money to buy this situation.  They can do this  by purchasing time with media to further their image of keepers of the peoples interest when their hands are all over the economy and it&#39;s present issues which they are already doing.  Another route they may take is to alter the bill by watering it down or twist it to actually give them much more power, you have to be careful when they are the ones usually running the shell game.   </p>
<p>When Mishkin says &quot;but to audit the federal reserve at this particular time, that could be disastrous&quot;  This is where he doesn&#39;t understand who we think caused this tremendously costly financial disaster. </p>
<p>I want to send him a T-shirt. </p>
<p>I don&#39;t think Mishkin was bought off, but the next guy?  You tell me. </p>
<p>His best point is when he talks about how if we get rid of the federal reserve note, we may have a bit of a calamity.  This is true.  Which is why Congressman Paul&#39;s reply was important about taking away the legal tender from the dollar and allowing other currencies to flourish.    Unless of course we want to base it on a commodity as Paul explains with his &quot;basket&quot; idea. </p>
<p>/Coolhand</p>
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		<title>By: Luke Buhrman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luke Buhrman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 01:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mishkin has some very valid points within his argument, and he is quite an interesting character.  His discussion is quite pointedly insightful for the subject at hand which really is the bill not the existence of the Federal Reserve.  Although I must say that I personally agree that the Fed needs to see it&#039;s end,  I think Mishkin agrees as well.  I would like to find out more about his background this says he was a &quot;governor&quot; probably of one of the branches other than new york, he probably knows first hand how corrupt the Fed actually is.  Because of course we all know how much professors make. 
 
This man appears to me to dislike the Fed and their practices but ultimately sees them as a beast that needs collared and not simply put down, why?  As he states, &quot;no one wants the kind of old inflation like we had in the 1970&#039;s&quot; he assumes that we believe that &quot;some&quot; kind of inflation is acceptable and necessary and that the Fed is the one worthy to inflict this on the american people.   
 
I would much rather have no inflation.  It is only a backward tax on our lives and livelihoods when we have to get a raise of so much percent each year just to keep up. 
 
But I do have to say that Mishkin is on point and quite harsh on Ron Paul&#039;s bill as reckless and &quot;being&quot; ad hoc.  I would have to say that congressman Paul sees this and takes the information seriously.  I think as much as Ron Paul truly wants to see the end of the Fed, he wants it done with the least harm to the american people.   
 
As citizens we need to understand that this bill will be a very important piece of legislation, and we cannot allow big business and the fed itself to spend money to buy this situation.  They can do this  by purchasing time with media to further their image of keepers of the peoples interest when their hands are all over the economy and it&#039;s present issues which they are already doing.  Another route they may take is to alter the bill by watering it down or twist it to actually give them much more power, you have to be careful when they are the ones usually running the shell game.   
 
When Mishkin says &quot;but to audit the federal reserve at this particular time, that could be disastrous&quot;  This is where he doesn&#039;t understand who we think caused this tremendously costly financial disaster. 
 
I want to send him a T-shirt. 
 
I don&#039;t think Mishkin was bought off, but the next guy?  You tell me. 
 
His best point is when he talks about how if we get rid of the federal reserve note, we may have a bit of a calamity.  This is true.  Which is why Congressman Paul&#039;s reply was important about taking away the legal tender from the dollar and allowing other currencies to flourish.    Unless of course we want to base it on a commodity as Paul explains with his &quot;basket&quot; idea. 
 
/Coolhand </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mishkin has some very valid points within his argument, and he is quite an interesting character.  His discussion is quite pointedly insightful for the subject at hand which really is the bill not the existence of the Federal Reserve.  Although I must say that I personally agree that the Fed needs to see it&#39;s end,  I think Mishkin agrees as well.  I would like to find out more about his background this says he was a &quot;governor&quot; probably of one of the branches other than new york, he probably knows first hand how corrupt the Fed actually is.  Because of course we all know how much professors make. </p>
<p>This man appears to me to dislike the Fed and their practices but ultimately sees them as a beast that needs collared and not simply put down, why?  As he states, &quot;no one wants the kind of old inflation like we had in the 1970&#39;s&quot; he assumes that we believe that &quot;some&quot; kind of inflation is acceptable and necessary and that the Fed is the one worthy to inflict this on the american people.   </p>
<p>I would much rather have no inflation.  It is only a backward tax on our lives and livelihoods when we have to get a raise of so much percent each year just to keep up. </p>
<p>But I do have to say that Mishkin is on point and quite harsh on Ron Paul&#39;s bill as reckless and &quot;being&quot; ad hoc.  I would have to say that congressman Paul sees this and takes the information seriously.  I think as much as Ron Paul truly wants to see the end of the Fed, he wants it done with the least harm to the american people.   </p>
<p>As citizens we need to understand that this bill will be a very important piece of legislation, and we cannot allow big business and the fed itself to spend money to buy this situation.  They can do this  by purchasing time with media to further their image of keepers of the peoples interest when their hands are all over the economy and it&#39;s present issues which they are already doing.  Another route they may take is to alter the bill by watering it down or twist it to actually give them much more power, you have to be careful when they are the ones usually running the shell game.   </p>
<p>When Mishkin says &quot;but to audit the federal reserve at this particular time, that could be disastrous&quot;  This is where he doesn&#39;t understand who we think caused this tremendously costly financial disaster. </p>
<p>I want to send him a T-shirt. </p>
<p>I don&#39;t think Mishkin was bought off, but the next guy?  You tell me. </p>
<p>His best point is when he talks about how if we get rid of the federal reserve note, we may have a bit of a calamity.  This is true.  Which is why Congressman Paul&#39;s reply was important about taking away the legal tender from the dollar and allowing other currencies to flourish.    Unless of course we want to base it on a commodity as Paul explains with his &quot;basket&quot; idea. </p>
<p>/Coolhand</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Martin</dc:creator>
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		<description>I believe it was Karl Marx predicted that the capitalist would debauch their currency, 
It looks like Marx has his minions helping protect the FED debauching the currency. 
 
When I was a child quarters were solid silver. The parents could buy a gallon of gas and a candy bar for me with a silver quarter. At  today&#039;s silver spot price ($17.46) that is $4.36 cents - I can buy a gallon of premium gas and a couple of candy bars for my kid. 
However If I had a paper dollar from then - I could not get 4 gallons of gas and 8 candy bars - I could only get 1/3 of a single gallon of gas...inflation is robbery by the government. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe it was Karl Marx predicted that the capitalist would debauch their currency,<br />
It looks like Marx has his minions helping protect the FED debauching the currency. </p>
<p>When I was a child quarters were solid silver. The parents could buy a gallon of gas and a candy bar for me with a silver quarter. At  today&#39;s silver spot price ($17.46) that is $4.36 cents &#8211; I can buy a gallon of premium gas and a couple of candy bars for my kid.<br />
However If I had a paper dollar from then &#8211; I could not get 4 gallons of gas and 8 candy bars &#8211; I could only get 1/3 of a single gallon of gas&#8230;inflation is robbery by the government.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Martin</dc:creator>
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		<description>I believe it was Karl Marx predicted that the capitalist would debauch their currency, 
It looks like Marx has his minions helping protect the FED debauching the currency. 
 
When I was a child quarters were solid silver. The parents could buy a gallon of gas and a candy bar for me with a silver quarter. At  today&#039;s silver spot price ($17.46) that is $4.36 cents - I can buy a gallon of premium gas and a couple of candy bars for my kid. 
However If I had a paper dollar from then - I could not get 4 gallons of gas and 8 candy bars - I could only get 1/3 of a single gallon of gas...inflation is robbery by the government. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe it was Karl Marx predicted that the capitalist would debauch their currency,<br />
It looks like Marx has his minions helping protect the FED debauching the currency. </p>
<p>When I was a child quarters were solid silver. The parents could buy a gallon of gas and a candy bar for me with a silver quarter. At  today&#39;s silver spot price ($17.46) that is $4.36 cents &#8211; I can buy a gallon of premium gas and a couple of candy bars for my kid.<br />
However If I had a paper dollar from then &#8211; I could not get 4 gallons of gas and 8 candy bars &#8211; I could only get 1/3 of a single gallon of gas&#8230;inflation is robbery by the government.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Robertson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Robertson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 00:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc, thanks for posting this! Dr. Paul is great to watch. He is very composed under an obvious distortion of facts. 
 
Keep in mind that Mishkin was on the Fed Board of Governors 06-08. 
 
While, Benedict Gregg has become a product of DC. His misrepresentation (lies) about the bill and zealous irrational argument, raise questions of what he has to gain. Of course we know he has an unblemished record...right? joe </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc, thanks for posting this! Dr. Paul is great to watch. He is very composed under an obvious distortion of facts. </p>
<p>Keep in mind that Mishkin was on the Fed Board of Governors 06-08. </p>
<p>While, Benedict Gregg has become a product of DC. His misrepresentation (lies) about the bill and zealous irrational argument, raise questions of what he has to gain. Of course we know he has an unblemished record&#8230;right? joe</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 23:38:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If these guys continue to blast his bill with the argument that the language opens it up to politicization, then simply ask them how the F they suggest to find out what&#039;s in the fed&#039;s books.  They will back themselves into a corner.  Why is the Fed the only institution in the country that is not subject to audits? 
 
I love Ron Paul and everything he stands for, but sometimes I think he has difficulty arguing his points live rather than writing stuff down.  Too bad Schiff wasn&#039;t brought on the show to grill these guys. </description>
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<p>I love Ron Paul and everything he stands for, but sometimes I think he has difficulty arguing his points live rather than writing stuff down.  Too bad Schiff wasn&#39;t brought on the show to grill these guys.</p>
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