Comments on: Joe Wilson vs. Jimmy Carter: Racism and Lies

By: Ron Paul Fan

Ron Paul Fan — Thu, 22 Sep 2011 00:29:00 +0000

I was never aware that Joe Wilson’s was accused of racism of his outburst. Was this a widespread allegation from the left, or just Jimmy Carter himself?

By: Greenfeld

Greenfeld — Thu, 24 Dec 2009 23:42:32 +0000

jimmy carter with his all dirty way of thinking
jimmy is hateful toward Israeli and Jews . he support the terrorist as long they kill Israeli .
never criticized Arab or any Arab country . oh no . the same as un .united nation .
in the last 60 yrs never found something wrong with Iraq . or Iran . or Syria . this how dirty this guy is . with is peace org in Atlanta.
but its get better in south Africa black burning other black i say again poor migrant from other country burn and murder a life .
i say again poor migrant from other country burn and murder a life . where mr mandella
where are you jimmy ? where is action against this murder . where is all peace loving human been ?
where is action by European court that try prosecute Israel for "war crime ".
where are your voice Mr carter . or jimmy carter .
my name Greenfeld

By: MIDEASTA — Blog — The Buzz

MIDEASTA — Blog — The Buzz — Sat, 19 Sep 2009 05:10:53 +0000

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By: Mike

Mike — Thu, 17 Sep 2009 15:45:09 +0000

The quotation marks may not have been the right way to get my thought across. Covert can mean secret or insidious. So I guess the use of the quotations was my way of saying I inferred from the use of the word covertly regarding Joe Wilson's "you lie", was that his comment is implied to be insidious. Why? Because he's white and therefore must have been acting stealthy because he is racist and the president is black? I feel words that imply a person's motivation, used over time can become to be thought of as fact instead of opinion. One of the downsides of mass communication. Thanks for letting me explain.

By: smg22

smg22 — Thu, 17 Sep 2009 12:38:18 +0000

If workers could organize internationally businesses wouldn't be able to off-load their jobs so easily. Illegal immigration is not simply an issue for conservatives. There are good liberal reasons for wanting to not depress the American economy, which replacing high-wage work with low-wage work obviously does, as anyone who's lost their auto job for a WaMart job knows.

By: smg22

smg22 — Thu, 17 Sep 2009 12:35:43 +0000

Why is covertly in quotation marks? Is it not a normal American word?

By: Brittanicus

Brittanicus — Thu, 17 Sep 2009 00:49:01 +0000

As usual the opponents of any kind of restriction on the illegal immigration, is playing the race card? It's a forgone conclusion that the benefactors of promoting a mass invasion of our shores, such as religious groups, unions, ACLU, radical ethnic caucuses and even our own US Chamber of Commerce, will mouth epithets that doesn't benefit big business, that doesn't advocate a continuous force of illegal cheap labor. Now they are really livid because their objection to E-Verify was thrown out of court. Now all federal contractors and subcontractors must adhere to the law. They have conspired against the American worker and people for too long, and now we are fighting back ourselves against corrupt politicians and other elected officials nationwide,

Rep.Joe Wilson was actually telling the truth at the time, and now Democrats have placed restrictive language in the Health care reform package as a reluctant afterthought by public demand. This was nothing to do about bigotry or racism, but the American workers and family survival. None of the business community who hire them wants their labor, but forces the taxpayer to carry the financial load. The US labor force should not have to be in competition, with people from other countries. Businesses have already offshore American jobs, because it's cheaper? So every illegal foreign national and family member should be exempt from government run health care, jobs and all the billions of taxpayer dollars secretly allocated to pay for their support. Twenty million plus illegal people compromised themselves, when they entered a sovereign nation without permission. Find out the truth at NUMBERSUSA, JUDICIAL WATCH and contact your politician at 202-224-3121 demanding no weakening conditions to E-Verify or any other law authored by Congress.

By: Mike

Mike — Thu, 17 Sep 2009 00:47:15 +0000

A comment was made suggesting more respect would have given if the president speaking was white, well let's assume for a moment that Joe Wilson is black, and the preident is black, is the "you lie" comment overtly or as someone suggested "coverttly" racist? Since President Carter suggested most white americans expressing concern for current administration is racially motivated, I'd like President Carter to let me know who the remaining whites are? I would like him or anyone suggesting Joe Wilson's comment was racist to enlighten me and let me know if I'm part of the most whites category or the minority white category who's just concerned. Sounds racist to me, when I'm left guessing where I fall just because of the color of my skin is white. Put that in your pipe and smoke it PRESIDENT CARTER!!

By: Jimmy Carter Racism | NEWS

Jimmy Carter Racism | NEWS — Wed, 16 Sep 2009 23:08:29 +0000

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By: Hilton H.

Hilton H. — Wed, 16 Sep 2009 22:55:34 +0000

Carter was a hypocrite and know nothing when he was president and it seems nothing has changed. His apinions were not worth two cents when he was in office and they still aren't worth two cents. Wish he could realize that no one is interested in his erroneous slant on things anymore–he is a continuous embarassment to the state of Georgia. Reagan realized Carter was not the brightest crayon in the box when he said, "there you go again" in their debate. If his brain was the size of his misguided ego,then he may could say something worthwhile. Sorry, he just doesn't get it–and he never did. Guess he will spend his remaining days rabble rousing–that seems to be his only talent.

By: marcg

marcg — Wed, 16 Sep 2009 19:06:47 +0000

No, racism is not only contained in overt racist comments. But how can anyone else other than the individual really know whether or not he/she is being covertly racist? It shouldn't be an attitude of "hey, let's throw the racist charge against the wall and see if it sticks!"

I would hope that in America we are all innocent until proven guilty. As "Bob" says above no one can really know what is inside another's heart.

The way to minimize racism (I don't know if it will ever die, unfortunately) IS to only accuse those of it who are actually guilty of being overtly racist.

The environment is immediately "racist charged" the minute you mistakenly accuse someone of being racist who was not being racist because you feel you can somehow magically detect racism in his/her heart.

Are we supposed to tip-toe around whenever we disagree with someone and worry that the racism is going to be shoved in our faces every time we vocalize our disagreement using words that are not normally construed as being racist? That only leads to a kind of fear-induced self-imposed censorship, spreads resentment, and potentially causes more racism.

Thanks again.. I appreciate the dialog as well,
Marc

By: smg22

smg22 — Wed, 16 Sep 2009 17:28:34 +0000

But Marc, do you think that racism is only contained in overt racist comments? Do you not think that racism is, and racists are, subtler and more complicated than that? Of *course* the defense that it wasn't an overtly racist comment can be used to say it therefore wasn't racist. If the only racism that we can label as such would be overtly hateful and racist speech and actions, then racism will never die, because there are many more covert ways in which it is present in our society.

And Joe Wilson, unlike an apple, is not simply an expression of his genetic code.

Thanks, I appreciate the dialog.