Comments on: More on the now defeated Concealed Carry State Reciprocity Amendment

By: Ken Rineer

Ken Rineer — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:49:36 +0000

Yes, it would be nice to repeal the 14th; but it isn't ever going to happen.

By: Ken Rineer

Ken Rineer — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:48:28 +0000

I understand. But all one must do is look to history. Compare the laws that have been repealed over, oh, let's say, the last 40 years and what laws have been enacted. We usually lose when it comes to undoing what damage has been done. Look at REAL I.D. as an example. Some states have "opted out," but they will be "punished" and our Central Govt has no business dictating State's driver's license requirements, even in the name of terrorism.

By: marcg

marcg — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:33:02 +0000

Yes, the dreaded 14th… Isn't it time to repeal that? They already de-facto repealed the 10th and much of the rest of the Constitution.

Thanks for your thoughts!

-Marc

By: marcg

marcg — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:32:35 +0000

I share your concerns about what the amendment *could* lead to, but the amendment itself does not institute any kind of national carry permit. A couple states don't even require a permit to conceal carry and if this law passed it would not require them to obtain one.

That being said, I always worry right along with you about checking the power of the Federal Government. The things it could lead to are a fight for another time, IMO.

-Marc

By: Ken Rineer

Ken Rineer — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:50:03 +0000

Secondly, the Federal Constitution, Bill of Rights did not apply to the states until after the 14th Amendment and SCOTUS began incorporating the Amendments on to the States after the Civil War.

Every state has its own Constitution and Bill or Declaration of Rights. Only 5 states do not have an RKBA provision in their bill/declaration of rights. Let the people rise up in those states to push for an RKBA amendment to their Constitution or move to a state where they like the RKBA laws. But don't push the Federal Government who is nothing more than a thug who wishes to increase its power, size and scope over the people.

In closing, there is an old saying: Be careful what you ask for, you may just get it. We do not want the nose of the Federal Camel in the CCW tent! Just look how States' RKBA laws have been trumped by Congress already through the commerce clause. Do we want Congress to begin dictating training requirements, type of bullets on can load in their pistol, cost of permit, etc.?

By: Ken Rineer

Ken Rineer — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:49:26 +0000

I normally agree with you; however, on this subject, I must disagree. National Reciprocity is a bad idea.

Let's use your comparison to the driver’s license. Do state CCW permit holders really want to go the route of the driver’s license over the last 100 years? The driver’s license is no longer about checking one’s ability to operate a motorized vehicle safely; it is about control of people, revenue generation and implied consent. In Arizona, if you believe in the right to travel and do not submit to the State and get a driver’s license and are pulled over, you lose your car/truck. Additionally, in Arizona, our CCW permit laws have been relaxed quite a bit over the years. How long do you think it will be before the Central Government starts setting standards to obtain a CCW permit. And, do not even get me started on REAL I.D. Do CCW permit holders really want a “one card fits all’ and have a biometric, embedded chip or RFID national I.D. card that replaces the State CCW permit? We could go on, but hopefully, I’ve made my point.