Comments on: Time For Ron Paul To Reach Out To Sarah Palin And Reform The GOP http://libertymaven.com/2008/11/06/time-for-ron-paul-to-reach-out-to-sarah-palin-and-reform-the-gop/3075/ For Liberty, One Individual At A Time Sun, 12 Feb 2012 08:44:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Mark Sanford has become Fred Sanford. Period. :: Liberty Maven http://libertymaven.com/2008/11/06/time-for-ron-paul-to-reach-out-to-sarah-palin-and-reform-the-gop/3075/comment-page-1/#comment-3414 Mark Sanford has become Fred Sanford. Period. :: Liberty Maven Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:51:46 +0000 http://libertymaven.com/?p=3075#comment-3414 [...] at Liberty Maven we’ve mentioned Mark Sanford a number of times as one of the “Ron Paul Republicans” who might step into [...] [...] at Liberty Maven we’ve mentioned Mark Sanford a number of times as one of the “Ron Paul Republicans” who might step into [...]

]]> By: carolm62 http://libertymaven.com/2008/11/06/time-for-ron-paul-to-reach-out-to-sarah-palin-and-reform-the-gop/3075/comment-page-1/#comment-1754 carolm62 Fri, 07 Nov 2008 21:51:17 +0000 http://libertymaven.com/?p=3075#comment-1754 Hmmm. When McCain announced Palin the media assumed it was a cynical ploy to get the Hillary vote. I'm not sure how any breathing human would confuse Sarah Palin with Hillary Clinton, but whatever. That's the media for you... To me it seemed he was attempting to appease the Ron Paul vote without offending the evangelical vote. Yeah, we should definitely reach out to her. Hmmm. When McCain announced Palin the media assumed it was a cynical ploy to get the Hillary vote. I’m not sure how any breathing human would confuse Sarah Palin with Hillary Clinton, but whatever. That’s the media for you…

To me it seemed he was attempting to appease the Ron Paul vote without offending the evangelical vote.

Yeah, we should definitely reach out to her.

]]> By: jcooke http://libertymaven.com/2008/11/06/time-for-ron-paul-to-reach-out-to-sarah-palin-and-reform-the-gop/3075/comment-page-1/#comment-1753 jcooke Fri, 07 Nov 2008 20:33:31 +0000 http://libertymaven.com/?p=3075#comment-1753 I agree that Ron Paul should call a summit and invite some Republican leaders, such as Sarah Palin, along with ordinary folks to begin discussing ways to revive the GOP. I agree that Ron Paul should call a summit and invite some Republican leaders, such as Sarah Palin, along with ordinary folks to begin discussing ways to revive the GOP.

]]> By: RBurnett http://libertymaven.com/2008/11/06/time-for-ron-paul-to-reach-out-to-sarah-palin-and-reform-the-gop/3075/comment-page-1/#comment-1749 RBurnett Fri, 07 Nov 2008 18:56:40 +0000 http://libertymaven.com/?p=3075#comment-1749 Who cares? Follow: Scenario. The economy revives in a couple of years, say 2011 or 2012. We leave Iraq and Afghanistan and there's no new explosion or war or whatever. And there's no more uncertainties, such as Katrina or the like. In 2012, Obama takes credit for all of this, and will have his Democrats in control of Congress, with a replacement Justice or two for those elder liberal Justices who will retire. Then another four years--2016. Palin will be 52. Paul will be retired or perhaps dead (old age) And if there's no new set of circumstances that would get the Democrats into trouble for 2016, then Hillary will stomp on Palin in 2016. You paople remind me of those other neocons, the neo Confederates, who are trying, in vain, to get the old South back via those pathetic secession movements. There's no hope there for that Lost Cause, and there's no hope for this one, with exceptioons noted (such as if the economy continues to tank or we do not leave Iraq and so forth) If nothing else, there's a long four years-- To these comments there can be no reply, no rebuttal, only a grudging agreement--the bases are all covered. The talk of a decline in voters and political partticipation was wrong, indeed, the young went for not Paul but for Obama. If the economy does revive, it will be noted that it was done by the old Keyenesian school--libertaian economists would be put outside like the cat. The only thing that I see written now at many libertarian places is the usual lament about the stupid, ignorant and vile American public who voted in Obama (or for that matter, also voted for Mccain) But for all of the nonsense talk of republics, this is, as Madison oput it, a wholly popular governmet where the people will get what they want if they want it long enough. And doing the right thing was for Madison and now only a side issue for the people. Enjoy the debris field--it's all you have now. Who cares?
Follow:
Scenario. The economy revives in a couple of years, say 2011 or 2012. We leave Iraq and Afghanistan and there’s no new explosion or war or whatever. And there’s no more uncertainties, such as Katrina or the like.
In 2012, Obama takes credit for all of this, and will have his Democrats in control of Congress, with a replacement Justice or two for those elder liberal Justices who will retire. Then another four years–2016. Palin will be 52. Paul will be retired or perhaps dead (old age) And if there’s no new set of circumstances that would get the Democrats into trouble for 2016, then Hillary will stomp on Palin in 2016.
You paople remind me of those other neocons, the neo Confederates, who are trying, in vain, to get the old South back via those pathetic secession movements. There’s no hope there for that Lost Cause, and there’s no hope for this one, with exceptioons noted (such as if the economy continues to tank or we do not leave Iraq and so forth)
If nothing else, there’s a long four years–
To these comments there can be no reply, no rebuttal, only a grudging agreement–the bases are all covered. The talk of a decline in voters and political partticipation was wrong, indeed, the young went for not Paul but for Obama.
If the economy does revive, it will be noted that it was done by the old Keyenesian school–libertaian economists would be put outside like the cat.
The only thing that I see written now at many libertarian places is the usual lament about the stupid, ignorant and vile American public who voted in Obama (or for that matter, also voted for Mccain) But for all of the nonsense talk of republics, this is, as Madison oput it, a wholly popular governmet where the people will get what they want if they want it long enough. And doing the right thing was for Madison and now only a side issue for the people.
Enjoy the debris field–it’s all you have now.

]]> By: bedr1 http://libertymaven.com/2008/11/06/time-for-ron-paul-to-reach-out-to-sarah-palin-and-reform-the-gop/3075/comment-page-1/#comment-1746 bedr1 Fri, 07 Nov 2008 18:04:20 +0000 http://libertymaven.com/?p=3075#comment-1746 Sarah Palin is the real thing - she is no NeoCon. Her husband is a member of the Alaska Independence Party which is much more radical than the LP or the CP. David Macko says, "Regarding Sarah Palin, she was chosen by William Kristol, a dedicated Zionist neocon enemy of liberty, one of the leaders in the destruction of the Republican Party, which richly deserved to commit suicide. Unfortunately, it may be taking the rest of us with it as the communist Obama regime begins." David I agree with you about Kristol and Obama, but Palin was not chosen by Kristol - ha ha ha thats funny. Kristol promoted her (had nothing to do with VP selections) as well as demoted her on purpose. Why not put in Palin (a populist conservative libertarian) and drag her down with McCain. Its very easy to see that Kristol had no real enthusiasm for her, because he knew all along McCain was going down. Palin was brought in for one thing and only one thing, McCain was crashing, Barr was at 7% and they did not want the blame to be the fact that a couple of Liberals in McCain and Lieberman who would have been the nominees for President and VP to take the fall. So they searched and found the one candidate that was polar opposite of McCain in every way and ambushed her with crazy rules and setups. Once she was picked you can see that Barr's numbers dropped like a rock, so he could never achieve the minor party status we all wanted at 5%. Then they tried to make Palin look like a joke, never really making the argument that she had more experience and brains than Obama. Mission acomplished. No No No David they hoodwinked you into thinking Palin was not worthy, when if fact she is probably the closest person for truth in America. The problem is that you are listening to the MSM too much, you should know better. You will see Palin come out firing back, pushing her populist/conservative/libertarian message. She is free from the McCain campaign chains she was forced to work within, that is, until the last 2 1/2 weeks of the campaign when she started to push her own views. The Democrat Party is deathly scared of Palin, they know she is someone that can unite enough populist/conservative/libertarian voters to beat them. I think they made a huge mistake (bad for them/good for us) in picking her, I don't think she would have ever came into national prominence otherwise, but now she is here and the seed has been planted and it will grow into a Palin win in 4 years. I was a Ron Paul district coordinator, and a Barr supporter but I am already transitioning to Palin 2012. Sarah Palin is the real thing – she is no NeoCon. Her husband is a member of the Alaska Independence Party which is much more radical than the LP or the CP.

David Macko says, “Regarding Sarah Palin, she was chosen by William Kristol, a dedicated Zionist neocon enemy of liberty, one of the leaders in the destruction of the Republican Party, which richly deserved to commit suicide. Unfortunately, it may be taking the rest of us with it as the communist Obama regime begins.”

David I agree with you about Kristol and Obama, but Palin was not chosen by Kristol – ha ha ha thats funny. Kristol promoted her (had nothing to do with VP selections)
as well as demoted her on purpose. Why not put in Palin (a populist conservative libertarian) and drag her down with McCain. Its very easy to see that Kristol had no real enthusiasm for her, because he knew all along McCain was going down. Palin was brought in for one thing and only one thing, McCain was crashing, Barr was at 7% and they did not want the blame to be the fact that a couple of Liberals in McCain and Lieberman who would have been the nominees for President and VP to take the fall. So they searched and found the one candidate that was polar opposite of McCain in every way and ambushed her with crazy rules and setups.

Once she was picked you can see that Barr’s numbers dropped like a rock, so he could never achieve the minor party status we all wanted at 5%. Then they tried to make Palin look like a joke, never really making the argument that she had more experience and brains than Obama.
Mission acomplished.

No No No David they hoodwinked you into thinking Palin was not worthy, when if fact she is probably the closest person for truth in America. The problem is that you are listening to the MSM too much, you should know better.

You will see Palin come out firing back, pushing her populist/conservative/libertarian message. She is free from the McCain campaign chains she was forced to work within, that is, until the last 2 1/2 weeks of the campaign
when she started to push her own views.

The Democrat Party is deathly scared of Palin, they know she is someone that can unite enough populist/conservative/libertarian voters to beat them.

I think they made a huge mistake (bad for them/good for us)
in picking her, I don’t think she would have ever came into national prominence otherwise, but now she is here and the seed has been planted and it will grow into a Palin win in 4 years. I was a Ron Paul district coordinator, and a Barr supporter but I am already transitioning to Palin 2012.

]]> By: NH http://libertymaven.com/2008/11/06/time-for-ron-paul-to-reach-out-to-sarah-palin-and-reform-the-gop/3075/comment-page-1/#comment-1745 NH Fri, 07 Nov 2008 18:00:24 +0000 http://libertymaven.com/?p=3075#comment-1745 This is a GREAT idea. Palin is NOT in approval of the new world order that has just gained a MEGAJUMP in bringing about world government. Sarah does NOT go along with this, she is innocent of the CFR and the oligarchy which is why she was dissed by McCain's RINOs. McCain picked her to grab us disaffected conservatives without having to apologize for what the GOP did to Ron. I'm an insider and I know this. SARAH IS ONE OF US, believe me. We need to put some faith in her to help Ron because as good as Ron is, he won't be here forever. Sarah is just 44 and she should indeed get with him to help reform the party who SHOULD HAVE BEEN the keepers of the 'republic' but have allowed the UN to control our schools and turned out little communist clones. Liberty Maven, good point here, KUDOS to you! This is a GREAT idea. Palin is NOT in approval of the new world order that has just gained a MEGAJUMP in bringing about world government.

Sarah does NOT go along with this, she is innocent of the CFR and the oligarchy which is why she was dissed by McCain’s RINOs.

McCain picked her to grab us disaffected conservatives without having to apologize for what the GOP did to Ron. I’m an insider and I know this.

SARAH IS ONE OF US, believe me. We need to put some faith in her to help Ron because as good as Ron is, he won’t be here forever. Sarah is just 44 and she should indeed get with him to help reform the party who SHOULD HAVE BEEN the keepers of the ‘republic’ but have allowed the UN to control our schools and turned out little communist clones.

Liberty Maven, good point here, KUDOS to you!

]]> By: ewj9961 http://libertymaven.com/2008/11/06/time-for-ron-paul-to-reach-out-to-sarah-palin-and-reform-the-gop/3075/comment-page-1/#comment-1743 ewj9961 Fri, 07 Nov 2008 10:44:00 +0000 http://libertymaven.com/?p=3075#comment-1743 Let Sarah go back to Alaska and there she can leave the rest of us alone again. What do we need with her? Let Sarah go back to Alaska and there she can leave the rest of us alone again. What do we need with her?

]]> By: Marc Gallagher http://libertymaven.com/2008/11/06/time-for-ron-paul-to-reach-out-to-sarah-palin-and-reform-the-gop/3075/comment-page-1/#comment-1728 Marc Gallagher Thu, 06 Nov 2008 15:15:28 +0000 http://libertymaven.com/?p=3075#comment-1728 David, I don't think Paul compromised on the four principles touted at that press conference. He did compromise though. He endorsed voting for two candidates (Nader and McKinney) who advocate more government control over our lives. Although I personally didn't like that move, I'm not saying he was completely wrong in doing so. I'm just saying that he could reach out to those he's already endorsed through his Liberty PAC (which also sees him compromising some of his principles) and maybe a few others like (the now seemingly GOP banished) Sarah Palin to make an attempt to push the debate within the GOP towards liberty. -Marc David,

I don’t think Paul compromised on the four principles touted at that press conference. He did compromise though. He endorsed voting for two candidates (Nader and McKinney) who advocate more government control over our lives. Although I personally didn’t like that move, I’m not saying he was completely wrong in doing so.

I’m just saying that he could reach out to those he’s already endorsed through his Liberty PAC (which also sees him compromising some of his principles) and maybe a few others like (the now seemingly GOP banished) Sarah Palin to make an attempt to push the debate within the GOP towards liberty.

-Marc

]]> By: David Macko http://libertymaven.com/2008/11/06/time-for-ron-paul-to-reach-out-to-sarah-palin-and-reform-the-gop/3075/comment-page-1/#comment-1727 David Macko Thu, 06 Nov 2008 14:32:52 +0000 http://libertymaven.com/?p=3075#comment-1727 I must take issue with your statement that Ron Paul ignored some of his four principles in the famous September 10 alternate presidential candidates news conference. He did not ignore his principles. They were modified so that the four major candidates could reach agreement on basic issues necessary to restore our constitutional republic. The four principles are the bare minimum to which any presidential or congressional candidate should be required to adhere if he or she is to earn the support of libertarians and constitutionalists. Regarding Sarah Palin, she was chosen by William Kristol, a dedicated Zionist neocon enemy of liberty, one of the leaders in the destruction of the Republican Party, which richly deserved to commit suicide. Unfortunately, it may be taking the rest of us with it as the communist Obama regime begins. For life and liberty, David Macko I must take issue with your statement that Ron Paul ignored some of his four principles in the famous September 10 alternate presidential candidates news conference. He did not ignore his principles. They were modified so that the four major candidates could reach agreement on basic issues necessary to restore our constitutional republic. The four principles are the bare minimum to which any presidential or congressional candidate should be required to adhere if he or she is to earn the support of libertarians and constitutionalists.
Regarding Sarah Palin, she was chosen by William Kristol, a dedicated Zionist neocon enemy of liberty, one of the leaders in the destruction of the Republican Party, which richly deserved to commit suicide. Unfortunately, it may be taking the rest of us with it as the communist Obama regime begins.

For life and liberty,
David Macko

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