Maybe this will finally shut up all the whiners complaining about how Ron Paul “should have” run third party.

Men with integrity uphold their promises, pledges and oaths. This should help us to consider exactly how many members of Congress have personal integrity. It can be examined easily in relation to their oath to support the Constitution and the fact that most of them regularly ignore and violate it.

It would be inconsistant for Dr. Paul to honorably abide by the Constitution while in office and be a promise and pledge breaker when it comes to ballot access. For him, I imagine, it is not an issue of what he could theoretically “get away with” in terms of a third party run. Only unprincipled men think in those terms. Rather, if he pledged not to run third party in order to be on some primary ballots, I am sure that was the end of the consideration of the matter.

The time to decide to run third was before the GOP primaries, a fact he alluded to in his common answer regarding the practicality of a third party run and its potential effects. He chose to go another route, a route that may not have yielded a primary win, but still has yielded the greatest attention for the cause of the Constitution in decades.

Dr. Paul has lit the fire, and has further provided us a vehicle to work with in the Campaign for Liberty. It will be our fault if we do not turn this momentum into something that can help to bring the message of liberty and constitutional government to our fellow citizens to consider. For while gatherings of our little groups of likeminded liberty lovers may make us all feel less isolated, it is not enough. The rest of the population must be reached with info regarding what the blessings of liberty are, and what they look like in light of good governance if there will be any chance of seeing anyone like Dr. Paul elected to the Presidency. The same thing goes for any significant number being elected to Congress as well.

As much as I do not like to admit it, a third party run would not likely have helped as much in moving thiungs forward at this point in history. And he could not have won in any event – like it or not. The American people are simply not ready to elect a limited government Constitutionalist…yet.

Bottom line is if we do not, as supporters of constitutional government, come together and work to change the reality of gross public ignorance, through some organization like Campaign for Liberty, it is likely that the American people never will be ready to elect a sound presidential candidate. Further, it is more likely that they will turn to a tyrannical despot posing as their saviour at a time of desparate national need.

They need to know and understand what “needs to be” and no political party, third parties included, can accomplish that educationally. Nor can a factionally allied entity. We all need to work together now, or we will all regret our failure to do so.

Great comment… I appreciate it. Indeed, “impossible” was too strong of a word. It does seem that it was the determination that was lacking and his allegiance to the GOP certainly didn’t help. It is difficult for him to “rebuild the GOP within”, as he has stated is one of his goals, if he is no longer within the GOP.

Enjoy,
Marc

I believe he’s referring to the so-called “sore loser laws.” Ballot access authority Richard Winger mulled over the very question (back in January) of whether or not these laws might prevent Ron Paul from mounting a 3rd party or Independent campaign if unsuccessful in the GOP primaries and came to the conclusion that in most, and perhaps all, states:

http://www.ballot-access.org/2007/01/12/sore-loser-laws-dont-generally-apply-to-presidential-candidates/

Sore Loser Laws Don’t Generally Apply to Presidential Candidates …

If Paul fails to win the Republican presidential nomination, he could then seek the Libertarian nomination (which he would be virtually certain to obtain) and run in November as the Libertarian nominee. John Anderson established the precedent in most states that “sore loser” laws do not apply to presidential candidates. John Anderson ran in two-thirds of the 1980 Republican presidential primaries, and he also won a place on the November 1980 ballots as an independent candidate in all 50 states. In some of the states in which Anderson happened not to run in the 1980 Republican presidential primary, there is still a precedent that “sore loser” laws don’t apply to president, because others set such precedents. These include Lyndon LaRouche (who ran in Democratic primaries and then as an independent in 1984, 1988 and 1992) and David Duke (who ran in Democratic presidential primaries in 1988 and then ran in November 1988 as the Populist Party nominee).

Only four states maintain that their “sore loser” laws apply to president: South Dakota, Mississippi, Ohio and Texas. After LaRouche won in court against Ohio in 1992, Ohio amended its “sore loser” law in 1993 to specifically apply to presidential candidates. No precedents have been set in Mississippi or South Dakota. In Texas, unfortunately, in 1996 the Constitution Party filed a lawsuit against Texas to get a ruling that the “sore loser” law doesn’t apply to president. The federal judge who got the case, James Nowlin, refused to enjoin Texas’ interpretation that the “sore loser” law does apply to president…

Since the overwhelming majority of states permit “sore loser” presidential candidates, it is likely that a court in the future would not uphold Texas’ interpretation.

And, if it did, the Texas Libertarian electors could always say that they are pledged to Ron Paul, Jr., the Congressman’s son. Then, if they were actually elected, they could vote for Ron Paul, Sr., notwithstanding their ruse.

Furthermore, the ease with which Ron Paul supporters managed to get his name on the ballot without even obtaining the candidate’s consent as the Constitution Party nominee in Montana and the (previously non-existent) Louisiana Taxpayer’s Party in Louisiana should call into question Benton’s assertion that “Ron Paul could not have run Libertarian if he wanted to”.

The fact is he COULD have run as the LP and/or CP nominee, or even Independent with the nomination of various smaller parties in the vast majority of states (a la Nader) without too much trouble, and likely would have been able to challenge or evade the shaky “sore loser” laws in the “11 states” Benton alludes to (while only mentioning Texas by name). Thus Ron Paul could have likely attained 48-49 (maybe even 50) state ballot access, something none of the third parties managed to do in 2008.

So I do not agree that a Ron Paul third party run was “impossible”, only that it would have been challenging and required a good deal of determination on Ron Paul and his campaign’s part.

At the end of the day, I believe it was the determination that was lacking (for a host of other reasons), not the ability to get on ballots.

Cheers to you and keep up the great work.

In any case, there’s no changing history now, but we can learn from it and move onward in the quest for liberty.

Enjoy,
Marc

Dr. Paul received almost 19,000 votes without running a third party campaign: 9000+ in Montana and 9000+ in Louisiana, plus however many write-in votes which will never be counted.

By comparison, Nader received about 679,000 votes, an average of 14,760 per state (Nader was on 46 ballots).

9,000 votes for each state on which Dr. Paul was on the ballot without campaigning is pretty remarkable.

Gary Johnson 2012!