Comments on: Ron Paul and Bob Barr: A Liberty Rift? http://libertymaven.com/2008/09/10/ron-paul-and-bob-barr-a-liberty-rift/1831/ For Liberty, One Individual At A Time Sat, 07 Nov 2009 12:27:32 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: This is no place http://libertymaven.com/2008/09/10/ron-paul-and-bob-barr-a-liberty-rift/1831/comment-page-1/#comment-1071 This is no place Wed, 10 Sep 2008 22:41:10 +0000 http://www.libertymaven.com/?p=1831#comment-1071 <strong>to sew the seeds of dissent....</strong> Liberty Movement Angered by Barr's Absense Many in the Liberty movement are angered by Bob Barr's advance from the Unity Press Conference this morning, but it may be worse than it initially appeared. Worse that posts all over Lew Rockwell, Ron Paul... to sew the seeds of dissent….

Liberty Movement Angered by Barr’s Absense

Many in the Liberty movement are angered by Bob Barr’s advance from the Unity Press Conference this morning, but it may be worse than it initially appeared.

Worse that posts all over Lew Rockwell, Ron Paul…

]]> By: wrdalton http://libertymaven.com/2008/09/10/ron-paul-and-bob-barr-a-liberty-rift/1831/comment-page-1/#comment-1070 wrdalton Wed, 10 Sep 2008 19:49:47 +0000 http://www.libertymaven.com/?p=1831#comment-1070 Barr's campaign sent out email focusing entirely on his invitation to Ron Paul and Paul's refusal to be added to the LP ticket. Barr says he disagrees with Paul's decision to stay within the Republican Party, but doesn't address Paul's recommendation that his supporters vote for one of the minor party candidates, including Barr. I think he just wants to run his LP campaign alone, without the other minor party candidates. He is the only alternative on the ballot here in N.C. Time will tell if his is the best strategy for the long term goal of breaking the Republicrat monopoly. Barr’s campaign sent out email focusing entirely on his invitation to Ron Paul and Paul’s refusal to be added to the LP ticket. Barr says he disagrees with Paul’s decision to stay within the Republican Party, but doesn’t address Paul’s recommendation that his supporters vote for one of the minor party candidates, including Barr. I think he just wants to run his LP campaign alone, without the other minor party candidates. He is the only alternative on the ballot here in N.C. Time will tell if his is the best strategy for the long term goal of breaking the Republicrat monopoly.

]]> By: Mike Miller http://libertymaven.com/2008/09/10/ron-paul-and-bob-barr-a-liberty-rift/1831/comment-page-1/#comment-1069 Mike Miller Wed, 10 Sep 2008 19:31:56 +0000 http://www.libertymaven.com/?p=1831#comment-1069 I think the reason Ron Paul declined the LP VP slot is, quite simply, because we wants to remain a Republican. He knows that the system is stacked against any third party getting any kind of traction. He wants to stay Republican, and reform that party from within. He couldn't rightly do that and run on a 3rd party ticket at the same time. I think the reason Ron Paul declined the LP VP slot is, quite simply, because we wants to remain a Republican. He knows that the system is stacked against any third party getting any kind of traction. He wants to stay Republican, and reform that party from within. He couldn’t rightly do that and run on a 3rd party ticket at the same time.

]]> By: wrdalton http://libertymaven.com/2008/09/10/ron-paul-and-bob-barr-a-liberty-rift/1831/comment-page-1/#comment-1068 wrdalton Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:59:26 +0000 http://www.libertymaven.com/?p=1831#comment-1068 I'm puzzled what Bob Barr believed he had to gain by omitting himself from this event, particularly if he agrees with the joint statement released and presumably would like to earn a large share of Ron Paul supporters. Is he upset Paul refused to join him alone? I think the realities of this campaign, and I've said before this has to be bigger than a campaign for the principles of the Libertarian or Constitution Parties, is that all four of the "third" party candidates need to unite on the four plank statement of principles issued today and then divide among themselves the fifty states to campaign in. They need to decide who among them will run the strongest in each state, and then direct their supporters to cast their ballots for the "consensus" candidate in each state. In other words, now is the time to pool their resources to work for one another instead of against each other. Besides the obvious benefit each candidate's campaign will receive by better stewardship of resources, the Mainstream Media will also have reason to give this phenomenon a lot more coverage. Bob Barr uniting with Cynthia McKinney? That's worth an interview on "60 Minutes" by itself. Also, right now Barr and the others are spending a lot of money trying to get on the ballot in states where others of the four are already present. This isn't necessary. Supposing the improbable should happen and one or more of the third party candidates should capture the right to a state's electors, the four candidates could caucus among themselves how to use those electors to the advantage of their common objective - providing an alternative to the present monolithic "two party" system. I’m puzzled what Bob Barr believed he had to gain by omitting himself from this event, particularly if he agrees with the joint statement released and presumably would like to earn a large share of Ron Paul supporters. Is he upset Paul refused to join him alone? I think the realities of this campaign, and I’ve said before this has to be bigger than a campaign for the principles of the Libertarian or Constitution Parties, is that all four of the “third” party candidates need to unite on the four plank statement of principles issued today and then divide among themselves the fifty states to campaign in. They need to decide who among them will run the strongest in each state, and then direct their supporters to cast their ballots for the “consensus” candidate in each state. In other words, now is the time to pool their resources to work for one another instead of against each other. Besides the obvious benefit each candidate’s campaign will receive by better stewardship of resources, the Mainstream Media will also have reason to give this phenomenon a lot more coverage. Bob Barr uniting with Cynthia McKinney? That’s worth an interview on “60 Minutes” by itself. Also, right now Barr and the others are spending a lot of money trying to get on the ballot in states where others of the four are already present. This isn’t necessary. Supposing the improbable should happen and one or more of the third party candidates should capture the right to a state’s electors, the four candidates could caucus among themselves how to use those electors to the advantage of their common objective – providing an alternative to the present monolithic “two party” system.

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