Comments on: The Path To Ron Paul For Many, Is Through Bob Barr http://libertymaven.com/2008/06/03/the-path-to-ron-paul-for-many-is-through-bob-barr/1131/ For Liberty, One Individual At A Time Sun, 12 Feb 2012 08:44:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Tony http://libertymaven.com/2008/06/03/the-path-to-ron-paul-for-many-is-through-bob-barr/1131/comment-page-1/#comment-8760 Tony Fri, 07 Oct 2011 15:29:36 +0000 http://www.libertymaven.com/2008/06/03/the-path-to-ron-paul-for-many-is-through-bob-barr/1131/#comment-8760 With all due respect, but it isn't just about the message but also about the man. One can easily spout a message in order to seem the right kind of guy to vote for, but what matters is integrity. Is Bob Barr someone with integrity? Let me ask this: after spending a life time in politics and being a warmongering, interventionist (foreign and domestic) type of statist, and voting for the Patriot Act, all of a sudden, out of the blue, he does a complete 180 on so many philosophically important issues at this stage in his life? I'm not buying it. Also, only shortly ago (after his switch to the LP) he was reported to work for/with infamous former Haiti dictator Papa Doc, and he apparently sees no moral issues with this. Would you vote for someone who would regard representing Hitler as just "business"? Why should Papa Doc be any different. Integrity is what i'm talking about. As for another example of how the message means nothing when you don't take a person's integrity into account, look at Ronald Reagan, whose actions were completely opposed to his words. He was supposed to be a libertarian conservative, yet the government GREW in heaps and bounds under his administration. (I'm not even going to bother mention Obama who despite his rhetoric is just a Bush on steroids). And finally, even if you would support voting for a 'watered down' version of Paul, this watered down version is with the LP, which no voter afraid of radical views would ever be affiliated with anyway. You'd probably make a better case mentioning Gary Johnson as an alternative to Ron Paul. With all due respect, but it isn't just about the message but also about the man.
One can easily spout a message in order to seem the right kind of guy to vote for, but what matters is integrity. Is Bob Barr someone with integrity?
Let me ask this: after spending a life time in politics and being a warmongering, interventionist (foreign and domestic) type of statist, and voting for the Patriot Act, all of a sudden, out of the blue, he does a complete 180 on so many philosophically important issues at this stage in his life? I'm not buying it. Also, only shortly ago (after his switch to the LP) he was reported to work for/with infamous former Haiti dictator Papa Doc, and he apparently sees no moral issues with this. Would you vote for someone who would regard representing Hitler as just "business"? Why should Papa Doc be any different. Integrity is what i'm talking about.

As for another example of how the message means nothing when you don't take a person's integrity into account, look at Ronald Reagan, whose actions were completely opposed to his words. He was supposed to be a libertarian conservative, yet the government GREW in heaps and bounds under his administration. (I'm not even going to bother mention Obama who despite his rhetoric is just a Bush on steroids).

And finally, even if you would support voting for a 'watered down' version of Paul, this watered down version is with the LP, which no voter afraid of radical views would ever be affiliated with anyway. You'd probably make a better case mentioning Gary Johnson as an alternative to Ron Paul.

]]> By: silentyuan http://libertymaven.com/2008/06/03/the-path-to-ron-paul-for-many-is-through-bob-barr/1131/comment-page-1/#comment-496 silentyuan Wed, 04 Jun 2008 06:43:30 +0000 http://www.libertymaven.com/2008/06/03/the-path-to-ron-paul-for-many-is-through-bob-barr/1131/#comment-496 This path isn't mine. I'm voting for Ron Paul. Restore the Republic! This path isn’t mine. I’m voting for Ron Paul.

Restore the Republic!

]]> By: Lysander http://libertymaven.com/2008/06/03/the-path-to-ron-paul-for-many-is-through-bob-barr/1131/comment-page-1/#comment-495 Lysander Wed, 04 Jun 2008 01:47:29 +0000 http://www.libertymaven.com/2008/06/03/the-path-to-ron-paul-for-many-is-through-bob-barr/1131/#comment-495 As a true blue Ron Paul supporter since early 2007, I wish Bob Barr the best. But I foresee 2 problems with raising money. 1) Many of Ron Paul's supporters are tapped out. Many scraped together their 100$ on the many money bomb days and its hard to keep doing that. 2) Many are disappointed by the campaign's results. Multiple 3% showings are demoralizing and begin to make you think your money is wasted. Nobody wants that experience again. Alas, the same is true for canvasing and all the volunteer stuff. That said, it took a while for the Ron Paul fund raising to pick up. Maybe by August it will get better for Barr. I would love to see him break 10% in the general and would be thrilled to see him debate. (I'd love to win the super lotto too) As a true blue Ron Paul supporter since early 2007, I wish Bob Barr the best. But I foresee 2 problems with raising money.

1) Many of Ron Paul’s supporters are tapped out. Many scraped together their 100$ on the many money bomb days and its hard to keep doing that.

2) Many are disappointed by the campaign’s results. Multiple 3% showings are demoralizing and begin to make you think your money is wasted. Nobody wants that experience again. Alas, the same is true for canvasing and all the volunteer stuff.

That said, it took a while for the Ron Paul fund raising to pick up. Maybe by August it will get better for Barr. I would love to see him break 10% in the general and would be thrilled to see him debate. (I’d love to win the super lotto too)

]]> By: Will Vidal http://libertymaven.com/2008/06/03/the-path-to-ron-paul-for-many-is-through-bob-barr/1131/comment-page-1/#comment-494 Will Vidal Tue, 03 Jun 2008 22:59:44 +0000 http://www.libertymaven.com/2008/06/03/the-path-to-ron-paul-for-many-is-through-bob-barr/1131/#comment-494 How about a stimulus check Bob Barr money bomb this summer? You heard it here first. The economy is F***ed, stimulate Bob Barr instead! How about a stimulus check Bob Barr money bomb this summer? You heard it here first.

The economy is F***ed, stimulate Bob Barr instead!

]]> By: jazzloversinc http://libertymaven.com/2008/06/03/the-path-to-ron-paul-for-many-is-through-bob-barr/1131/comment-page-1/#comment-493 jazzloversinc Tue, 03 Jun 2008 21:21:15 +0000 http://www.libertymaven.com/2008/06/03/the-path-to-ron-paul-for-many-is-through-bob-barr/1131/#comment-493 The best thing the LP can do is start setting up those meet up groups. The word spreads like wild fire. It is an excellent tool. Someone can call for a money bomb..gotta put it on youtube. com. We can make it happen. The best thing the LP can do is start setting up those meet up groups. The word spreads like wild fire. It is an excellent tool. Someone can call for a money bomb..gotta put it on youtube. com. We can make it happen.

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